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Old 12-06-2006, 08:20 PM
Eihli Eihli is offline
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Default Longest losing/breakeven stretch?

PT has me at +1.5/100 over the past 210k hands in my current PT databse, but I'm actually down a lot since most of my hands/winnings came from 2/4 NL and my big losses were at 30/60 limit.

150k hands ago I was playing 5/10NL and 30/60 limit and started losing, and slowly dropped down in stakes to where I'm at now playing .5/1NL. September, October, and November were all losing months for me, and so far I'm down ~10 buy-ins in December over 10k hands.

I have been playing for 3 years. I have over 200k hands of limit, over 10k sit&goes and over 250k hands of no limit. I have read TOP, HPFAP, NLHTaP, WLLH, TPFAP, HoH I & II. I have gotten coaching from Eric Lindgrauen, Big_Jim, and several others. I am a member of cardrunners and stoxpoker. I have done everything I can think of to improve my game.

150k hands... I can not win.
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:22 PM
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thanks for all the cash bro!
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:30 PM
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Cant win with, 150k hands after all that reading and coaching......quit poker 4lyf?
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: Longest losing/breakeven stretch?

ive had 100k hand losing/break even runs. just keep logging hands and youll be fine...

fwiw it helps to try new sites, new games, etc when running bad.
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:56 PM
Stinkybeaver Stinkybeaver is offline
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Default Re: Longest losing/breakeven stretch?

If what you post is real and I'm not questioning it, and you don't tilt, thats just seriously concerning IMO

What's your coaches opinion on this, do they think you have a solid game going.

Is the fact that you are losing, maybe that you mix a lot of limits instead of playing one limit and beating this before moving up..?
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: Longest losing/breakeven stretch?

I know guys who I could get to read all the books etc, yet I would have been able to beat them 2 months into my career. Some people just aren't cut out for poker no matter what they read.

I am not saying you are one of those people.

Why not start again at 1/2 and build up a bankroll the correct way? It might improve your confidence as well.
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:07 PM
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Post a graph for our enjoyment please.
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:11 PM
Eihli Eihli is offline
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this has been my thoughts. If i read all those books to a dog and tried to teach a dog to play perfect poker. i could only get so far. if i took someone who was retarded and tried to teach them poker, no matter what i did, i could only get them so far. no matter how much i teach one of my friends working at mcondalds about poker, they'd never have an edge over most of the winners on this board. and i have to face the assumption that no matter what i do, there is a ceiling to how good i can be. when i hit it (if i havn't already) it's only a matter of time before everyone else catches up or goes broke. even if people don't catch up, how much money i can make is no longer in my hands, but in the hands of the market and how fishy the games are.
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:13 PM
Eihli Eihli is offline
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graphs and details come from an older thread

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rue#Post8140105
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:19 PM
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Cant win with, 150k hands after all that reading and coaching......quit poker 4lyf?

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I've had breakeven stretches of 100k and 150k. Ho hum really. It happens.

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