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Old 12-06-2006, 07:57 PM
kitaristi0 kitaristi0 is offline
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Default 50NL | Tough turn spot with TT 3-way

CO seems a bit donkish, he donkbets flops and instafolds to raises. No read on the other guy.

I thought this was a pretty interesting spot. First, do you bet or check? If you bet, do you call? If you check, how do you respond to a

a) bet, fold
b) check, bet
c) bet, call?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($54.65)
MP ($63.60)
CO ($58)
Button ($46.80)
SB ($45.25)
Hero ($60.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, CO calls $4, Button calls $3.50.

Flop: ($13.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, CO calls $8, Button calls $8.

Turn: ($37.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero ?
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:07 PM
virompl virompl is offline
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Default Re: 50NL | Tough turn spot with TT 3-way

This is tough. I think I would check and see what happens.

Probably fold if button bets and call if CO bets and button folds.

I think the problem with betting is you are likely to end up in exact same situation on the river.
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:17 PM
DanJ. DanJ. is offline
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Default Re: 50NL | Tough turn spot with TT 3-way

I think turn is a check/fold, no way TT can be good here in a RR pot...
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: 50NL | Tough turn spot with TT 3-way

CO's hand must have some intrinsic value seeing as he open limps, overcalls, then calls the relatively big bet on this seemingly uninteresting flop. I would range him on some sort of pair, or maybe like AJhh? I mean if he has been instafolding flops to pressure, then surely it makes sense that he has something here...

The question I am trying to answer for myself is, if someone has a set here, do they raise or not? I dont think anyone has a lone 5 because what lone 5 calls the threebet preflop - for a 5 other than 55 to be here is verrrry donkish...idk if I would even accept 56s as part of my range for these guys here.

So the pot is now massive, and if you want to get involved you are probably going to have to commit yourself to the hand at some stage - if you bet and someone pushes, can you fold? I was thinking about a checkraise all in, but I'm not sure that folds out anything that we beat and I don't know if our opponents are bad enough to see the 5 as scary.

Blehhhh take this advice lightly as I am unsure as to my action in this really awkward spot, but I think I would crai here. I would do this because I think if one of our opponents had the straight draw or the flush draw there's a chance that they would bet at it, whereas if you were to bet out here you might just fold the draws out and get no further value from them, given how frightening the size of this pot is.

But really idk, tough spot.
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:33 PM
GtrHtr GtrHtr is offline
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Default Re: 50NL | Tough turn spot with TT 3-way

wow. My money is on button getting odds on a draw or possibly playing a weaker than normal hand pf getting odds as well. CO is who I'd worry about, but you say he's donkish.

I'd check fold, but check call a stupid underbet. The turn card was a pretty good card for us.

I can't think of a way to get hu against button, but that to me seems ideal.
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Old 12-06-2006, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: 50NL | Tough turn spot with TT 3-way

[ QUOTE ]
Blehhhh take this advice lightly as I am unsure as to my action in this really awkward spot, but I think I would crai here. I would do this because I think if one of our opponents had the straight draw or the flush draw there's a chance that they would bet at it, whereas if you were to bet out here you might just fold the draws out and get no further value from them, given how frightening the size of this pot is.

[/ QUOTE ]

I discussed it a bit w/ Kit over aim and i think checking and then 1 guy bets and it's back to you c/r all in is cool. Bet and a call or bet and a raise back to you i think fold, esp. if it's bet/raise. What ya thinks?

Do guys at 50 nl bet w/ wide ranges(on the turn when checked to), consistently raise flops like this w/ sets in rr pots? I haven't played there in a while and i think the better you can answer those 2 questions the better a decision you can make here.

Paul
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