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99s 2 hands
Hand 1
Villian 44/5, not aggressive ost flop Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls. Flop: (4.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls. Turn: (3.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero ????? Hand 2 No reads Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls. Flop: (6.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, BB calls. Turn: (4.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls. River: (6.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero ????? |
#2
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Re: 99s 2 hands
Hand 1: hmmm not aggressive post flop, he's raising on the big street after you have been leading the whole way, there two overpairs and 3flush on the board. I hate spots like these. Sure we're getting 6-1 to draw to our 9-flush, but how often is that good? If villain has low diamonds that takes another two out of the deck, if villain has a high diamond we're toast, if villain doesn't have any diamonds (not likely given his description as passive but maybe) we still have to snag one (or a 9) to win. I think you can discount at least a 1/3 of your flush outs here and maybe one of your set outs making this a neg. EV call. fold.
Hand 2 (These would be easier with reads) Against a passive player you can go ahead and muck, 2 pair and a straight are all very reasonable holdings and the pot isn't huge or anything. against a tricky player raise, fold to 3 bet, and check behind. as played fold river, what is possibly betting that you are still ahead of? |
#3
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Re: 99s 2 hands
Hand 1 - I fold, this guy is unaggressive so he either has us beat now or has a ton of outs on the river and you don't know which is which. Seems best to just let it go, pot isn't big enough for a call down.
Hand 2 - I would raise the turn and fold to a 3bet. He probably has a 7 but he might just be trying to scare you and throw his hand away to a raise. If he calls and bets river again I would fold. |
#4
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Re: 99s 2 hands
fold hand 1. hand 2 i'd like a read but a free showdown raise can be good against a lot of players - tricky players know you dont have a straight though so that's a problem.
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Re: 99s 2 hands
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Hand 1 - I fold, this guy is unaggressive so he either has us beat now or has a ton of outs on the river and you don't know which is which. Seems best to just let it go, pot isn't big enough for a call down. Hand 2 - I would raise the turn and fold to a 3bet. He probably has a 7 but he might just be trying to scare you and throw his hand away to a raise. If he calls and bets river again I would fold. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly what I was thinking |
#6
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Re: 99s 2 hands
Hand 1
fold the turn. this seems like as borderline as a bet/fold can get, though, because your odds are close. Hand 2 i need a read to know how to play this. against an unknown, i'd probably plan on calling down but fold on this particularly dangerous river. bbbushu |
#7
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Re: 99s 2 hands
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Hand 1:...I think you can discount at least a 1/3 of your flush outs here and maybe one of your set outs making this a neg. EV call. fold. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this out counting. What's interesting here is that with these seven outs, hero acutally has enough direct odds to call 6-1. The reason it's a fold, though, is because of hero's crappy OOP reverse-implied odds. -Andrew |
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Re: 99s 2 hands
In hand 2, the fact that BB bets into an A that hits alot of your possible holdings and completes the flush draw says something.. fold the river.
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