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Old 12-06-2006, 02:14 AM
chaoti chaoti is offline
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Default 25NL: Flopped flush - Anybody sees a laydown here?

Like 2nd orbit at the table. Table is loose, SB and button aren't very good, BB overvalues top pairs - hence extra chips in my stack.

Any chance I'm not going for all my stack here?


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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10./$0.25.
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $32
Button: $14.90
SB: $9.75
BB: $37.05

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $1</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($5, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5</font>, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $10</font>, Hero ???
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Old 12-06-2006, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: Flopped flush - Anybody sees a laydown here?

Raise the flop man. You raise this flop for alot of reasons, value/protection/etc. I would also raise or fold PF, I hate open limping.

As played, I would shove the turn.
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Old 12-06-2006, 02:30 AM
chaoti chaoti is offline
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Default Re: 25NL: Flopped flush - Anybody sees a laydown here?

Agree with the flop, although the SB was wild and I took a chance to give up initiative till the next round.

Pre-flop I feel was ok in this situation, nobody would fold to a raise, and with a couple active players limping could pay-off very well.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: Flopped flush - Anybody sees a laydown here?

open end straight flush draw? least you would be doing here is calling..
Definitely raise the flop..
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: Flopped flush - Anybody sees a laydown here?

slowplaying this hand at 25 NL is a big, big mistake.

slowpaying this hand at 25 NL is a big, big mistake.

as played, don't even think about folding (3bet him). never, ever, ever.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: Flopped flush - Anybody sees a laydown here?

I raise this PF in a 4-handed game.

As played, raise the flop. Another club either kills your hand or your action. As played, three bet his turn raise and try to get it all-in. Don't even consider folding here. You have the third nuts, with a redraw to a straight flush.
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Old 12-06-2006, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: Flopped flush - Anybody sees a laydown here?

Raise it up or fold preflop. Take the initiative in the hand.

As played, raise flop. People never give you credit for a flopped flush when you raise because people always expect you to slowplay it.

It's an interesting hand to address a topic actually. You should always be thinking "What does villian think that I have? What am I repping to villian?" Here, it's not obvious that you have the flush. And so you should push. Not that you have to think that, because you should push anyway, but it will help you to put villian on hands if you think what you are repping to him.
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Old 12-06-2006, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: Flopped flush - Anybody sees a laydown here?

Thanks for all suggestions. I felt I played the hand pretty subpar from the start. Guess playing against numerous calling stations/slowplayers takes a toll on you and brings doubts about the aggressive approach.

I did push in this spot, button came along with a flopped set, BB called with a flopped K-high flush, river blanked.
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