a pure bluff on a good bluffing card

[Guruman]

villain in this hand is a pretty good tag who can make postflop <font color="gray">fold</font>s

***** Hand history (v1.2) *****
Hand ID 75746382
$3/$6 Texas Hold'em (Split Limit) - 22:21:50 04/12/2006 ET

ThGuruman: Big Blind ($3)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to ThGuruman: [9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
player 1: <font color="red">raise</font> ($6)
Player 3: <font color="gray">fold</font>
Player 4: <font color="gray">fold</font>
Player 5: <font color="gray">fold</font>
ThGuruman: <font color="green">call</font> ($3)
** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
ThGuruman: <font color="green">check</font> ($0)
Player 1: <font color="red">bet</font> ($3)
ThGuruman: <font color="green">call</font> ($3)
** Dealing Turn **
Community cards: [K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
ThGuruman: <font color="green">check</font> ($0)
Player 1: <font color="red">bet</font> ($6)
ThGuruman: <font color="red">raise</font>

[gehrig]

this is horrible

that is not a good card to bluff bc its an obvious card to bluff and bc so many hands need to peel

the pot is 5sb when u decide to bluff-call the flop. it looks like ur planning to put in 7 sb to win that with no outs. thats not the best plan

[thorleif]

Interesting play, although if we get to the river, that card is really going to play a role in its effectiveness. We're hoping he just folds to our raise, but if villian has a big club, he's definitely going to stick around getting what I calculated to be 6:1? The river is then a b/f on any non-club.

I think I like a fold on the turn.

[latefordinner]

well if you keep putting in more and more bets it becomes more betterer to try and win the damn thing on the next street. the float call to bluff-raise the turn might be okay against a button or SB raise, but not an EP raiser.

[27offsooot]

[ QUOTE ]

that is not a good card to bluff bc its an obvious card to bluff and bc so many hands need to peel


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Yup. In addition, if he's decent, he knows that most TAGs will c/r 4F and any pair and most of the time a K on the flop. Thus, u shouldn't have any of these. Thus, u're FOS a good % of the time.

[Guruman]

hmm. alright.

I was actually the villain in this hand, and I would have folded my A9noclubhaving hand if the real villain had checkraised.

So that makes me wonder if I should fold my no draw having ace on a checkraise in that spot or not. My thought is that folding would be correct there, even though my opponent checkraising a bluff doesn't seem to be. (or probably because of that fact).

With that said, what hands do checkraise me there? Is it always a made hand?

[SparkyDog]

I don't like your play here, but I think Villain is either bet/folding or calling down most of the time. Not sure what that analysis is worth, other than I would often give up on the river. After he bets this turn I don't see this being a very +EV bluff.

Oh and fold preflop.

[RunDownHouse]

I would like it much better in position, since TAGs like to take b/f lines more than others, and he's hard-pressed to 3bet anything other than a K even if he's "certain" you're semi-bluffing.

If I was in position here with A9 no club I'd only bet if I was planning to call down a c/r, otherwise I check behind and call any non-club/5/8 river.

[RunDownHouse]

Sparky,

You don't think his hand is good enough to defend an UTG open 5-ways?

[Scary_Tiger]

This is completely retarded.

Fold flop.

Fold turn.

BOOOO BLUFFING BAD.