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12-04-2006, 07:31 PM
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Bluff vs Beyondthegame: Ft 400
I have played a decent amoung with BTG and he is like 28/24/4. Very agg and very good. He views me as the 22/18 that I am, but knows that I can mix it up postflop. effective stacks are 500 I raise KQc utg to 14 and he calls out of the sb. Flop= KsTs4c he leads for 24 into the 28 pot and I raise to 80, he quickly calls Turn Ah he bets 169 into like a 175 pot and I push for like 410 I figured that the only hand he can call me with is QJ and his turn lead for close to pot looks strong but not like QJ Thanks 
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12-04-2006, 07:39 PM
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Re: Bluff vs Beyondthegame: Ft 400
Call flop for pot control. I believe pot control outweighs charging him to draw.
If I was in his spot, I'd probably donkbet my draws/sets/two pair, sometimes donkbetting w/ mid pair / top pair type hand, but usually checkcalling w/ top pair. I'm not saying this is a good range for donkbetting, but I think it's a reasonable starting point for assigning a range for your villain. I don't like your turn bluff @ all, I doubt he value bets anything and then folds to a raise, so when you move AI, you only get him to fold hands that he's betting as a bluff. I would imagine he's on a big draw / QJ / two pair / set usually and is ~never stone cold bluffing. This shove seems terribly spewy. You should fold.
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#3
12-04-2006, 07:49 PM
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Re: Bluff vs Beyondthegame: Ft 400
To be honest, I thought the turn raise was spewy, but Im repping such a big hand here that there are very few hands he can call with. His turn lead for pot was unusual for him too.
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12-04-2006, 07:49 PM
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Re: Bluff vs Beyondthegame: Ft 400
flop/turn play sucks imo.
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12-04-2006, 07:56 PM
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Re: Bluff vs Beyondthegame: Ft 400
On the turn what part of his range that leads for pot are you looking to fold out? He's not folding two pair+ here with that much in the pot and that constitutes a high percentage of hands that lead turn for pot.
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#7
12-04-2006, 07:57 PM
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Re: Bluff vs Beyondthegame: Ft 400
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[ QUOTE ] flop/turn play sucks [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ]
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#9
12-04-2006, 08:04 PM
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Re: Bluff vs Beyondthegame: Ft 400
[ QUOTE ]
To be honest, I thought the turn raise was spewy, but Im repping such a big hand here that there are very few hands he can call with. His turn lead for pot was unusual for him too. [/ QUOTE ] Unless you two have a very specific history with each other where he knows you won't make bad plays like you made above, then I doubt he's every folding 2 pair or better ever to you.
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#10
12-04-2006, 08:09 PM
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Re: Bluff vs Beyondthegame: Ft 400
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] To be honest, I thought the turn raise was spewy, but Im repping such a big hand here that there are very few hands he can call with. His turn lead for pot was unusual for him too. [/ QUOTE ] Unless you two have a very specific history with each other where he knows you won't make bad plays like you made above, then I doubt he's every folding 2 pair or better ever to you. [/ QUOTE ] I have played a lot with him and I am almost positive he folds 2 pair here, but not better obviously. From his point of view, I likely have AA, KK, TT
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