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Old 12-04-2006, 02:55 PM
ocklind ocklind is offline
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Default NL600, laying down a monster?

Villain is 27/4/2.5 over 278 hands. Think he would raise w/ AA UTG, or at least limp re-raise. He wants to get it in therefore naturally put him on a monster, dont know what kinda monster though. If this is a fold should I check-raise less on the river to easier fold if he pushes? Personally I like a C/R move here since he might be betting a broken str8-draw/a six. So I induce a bluff and hopefully get more money from a 6.

Possible hands: 66,A6,65,63,33

I beat like 1 hand but would you fold?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)


Button ($682.10)
SB ($804.10)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($600)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($600)</font>
MP ($648.40)
CO ($440)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls $6, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $34</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $28, UTG calls $28.

Flop: ($105) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($105) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $65</font>, UTG calls $65, MP folds.

River: ($235) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $90</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $300</font>, UTG calls $600 (All-In), Hero ?

What hand do I beat here?
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:08 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: NL600, laying down a monster?

33. 6x

I don't like the river check raise.
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:11 PM
john kane john kane is offline
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Default Re: NL600, laying down a monster?

personally id never fold this in one million hands.

if he has any sense he doesnt have 6x given he flat called the turn with a straight stuff happening. id say he has 33. if he has you beat, meh, its abc imo.
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:14 PM
Bill King Bill King is offline
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Default Re: NL600, laying down a monster?

he's never limping UTG w/ A6 and then calling a raise OOP.

67s, a few others pairs etc.

i like betting the flop also.. and i think the river c/r works better if you bet the flop.

you're getting your money in here every time, this is never a fold.. a line i like on the river is betting out $180 or so, unless your river line was giving him some bluff equity.

if he has AA, tap the table.
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Old 12-04-2006, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: NL600, laying down a monster?

I dont like the river CR... I think I fold to a 3bet on river unless I've seen him make some raises with mediocre hands previously
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Old 12-04-2006, 04:33 PM
ocklind ocklind is offline
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Default Re: NL600, laying down a monster?

Those of you advocate betting the river, what do I do vs a push? Call? If so why do I not C/R the hell out of him at the river, we dont want to make the tough decesions, we want him to make em?
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Old 12-04-2006, 04:59 PM
snugglez88 snugglez88 is offline
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Default Re: NL600, laying down a monster?

fold pf, bet the flop, bet the river... I'm calling any bet he makes. You're calling a push.
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:18 PM
Blizzardbaum Blizzardbaum is offline
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Default Re: NL600, laying down a monster?

AA seems so unlikely given the pf and flop action. 33/67 seems most likely of the hands you beat (and they seem likely given villain's stats). Even if you are behind, how can you even think aboout folding getting almost 4:1 with a full house?
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