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First 20 minutes of 4/180, have built up my stack with small pots.
I made a loose call with A8 soooted... but then I flop four to a flush. Short stack pushes all-in, player calls all-in for half his chips. What is my move? PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com Button (t1300) SB (t1680) BB (t1800) UTG (t860) UTG+1 (t1470) Hero (t1930) MP2 (t1290) MP3 (t1450) CO (t1720) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t80</font>, Hero calls t80, MP2 calls t80, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls t70, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls t60. Flop: (t420) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t780 (All-In)</font>, UTG+1 calls t780, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font> |
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780 into 2k pot... that's just about odds right there, plus UTG+1 might add more later. And since it's an all-in you have a high probability of seeing the river free. But with 2 people behind you I'm thinking I'd be tempted to just go ahead and push it.
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Fold preflop.
I'm not talking about post flop, because I don't know what happened on the flop, and I don't know what it looks like, because I stopped reading when I saw 'Hero calls 80'. Uuugggggggggggggggghhhhhhh |
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780 into 2k pot... that's just about odds right there, plus UTG+1 might add more later. And since it's an all-in you have a high probability of seeing the river free. But with 2 people behind you I'm thinking I'd be tempted to just go ahead and push it. [/ QUOTE ] i think you're math is wrong |
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Fold preflop, don't fold postflop.
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780 to win 1180 u have possibly 12 outs . its close you almost want another caller here
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[ QUOTE ] 780 into 2k pot... that's just about odds right there, plus UTG+1 might add more later. And since it's an all-in you have a high probability of seeing the river free. But with 2 people behind you I'm thinking I'd be tempted to just go ahead and push it. [/ QUOTE ] i think you're math is wrong [/ QUOTE ] 780 into a pot of 1980. 2.53 to 1. 9 (maybe 12 outs). His math looks right to me (assuming we're going to see 2 more cards). Edited: For my bad math [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 780 into 2k pot... that's just about odds right there, plus UTG+1 might add more later. And since it's an all-in you have a high probability of seeing the river free. But with 2 people behind you I'm thinking I'd be tempted to just go ahead and push it. [/ QUOTE ] i think you're math is wrong [/ QUOTE ] 780 into a pot of 1980. 2.53 to 1. 9 (maybe 12 outs). His math looks right to me (assuming we're going to see 2 more cards). Edited: For my bad math [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] with two all in players, trust me, you do NOT have 12 outs unless they are both donkeys. you only have 9. FOLD |
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with two all in players, trust me, you do NOT have 12 outs unless they are both donkeys. you only have 9. FOLD [/ QUOTE ] I could see finding a fold here at some tables in some tourneys, figuring 9 outs best case, with a good chance of being against a made hand and a flush draw. However, this is a 4/180, expect to see J9 no spades and like T8 from these 2...it's a call. Also, the value of getting a big stack early in a 4/180 is huge, because then you can pick off the far inferior players and absorb a bad beat or 2. I'm willing to gamble it up a lot early in these to try and get a stack. |
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