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Old 12-03-2006, 02:49 PM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default $16 KK vs Ace on flop & 2 spades on flop

Please advice post flop...

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t60</font>, UTG+1 calls t60, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t60, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t210) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks

Turn: (t210) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP3 raises to t300</font>, Hero calls t200

River: (t810) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP3 bets t1140 (All-in)</font>, Hero calls t1140 (All-in)
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Old 12-03-2006, 02:55 PM
melquides melquides is offline
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Default Re: $16 KK vs Ace on flop & 2 spades on flop

PF raise to 80-100.
Flop looks good.
Check turn. I like lead on non spade turn for a little more--t180. Here, you have to fold to re-raise.
River is easy fold.
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Old 12-03-2006, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: $16 KK vs Ace on flop & 2 spades on flop

t80-t100 pf.
check turn
check/call non spade river
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Old 12-03-2006, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: $16 KK vs Ace on flop & 2 spades on flop

Please fold the turn, barring that please fold river.
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Old 12-03-2006, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: $16 KK vs Ace on flop & 2 spades on flop

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Please fold the turn, barring that please fold river.

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Old 12-03-2006, 03:47 PM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: $16 KK vs Ace on flop & 2 spades on flop

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Please fold the turn, barring that please fold river.

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I won this hand. Villain was bluffing. But I posted b/c I thought I may have been wrong. Is the reason that a fold is correct, because while sometimes you may be ahead, most often you are way behind in this situation?
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Old 12-03-2006, 04:05 PM
Schmitty 87 Schmitty 87 is offline
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Default Re: $16 KK vs Ace on flop & 2 spades on flop

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Please fold the turn, barring that please fold river.

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I won this hand. Villain was bluffing. But I posted b/c I thought I may have been wrong. Is the reason that a fold is correct, because while sometimes you may be ahead, most often you are way behind in this situation?

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Yes, when villain takes this line it isn't a bluff 100% of the time, so just because you won this time doesn't mean you will everytime.

By the way, OPEN SHOVE preflop. This is the first hand, right? You'd be amazed how many times you get called by 76s or A5 or 22.
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Old 12-03-2006, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: $16 KK vs Ace on flop & 2 spades on flop

I was thinking of starting to open shove KK and AA on the first hand. Now I'll try it
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Old 12-03-2006, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: $16 KK vs Ace on flop & 2 spades on flop

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By the way, OPEN SHOVE preflop. This is the first hand, right? You'd be amazed how many times you get called by 76s or A5 or 22.

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I think this is losing a lot of value with your KK. Whilst I agree that plenty of donks will call with lots of stuff you beat, 95%+ of the time you get all folds and pick up t30 in blinds for your trouble.
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Old 12-03-2006, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: $16 KK vs Ace on flop & 2 spades on flop

Raise more PREFlop, okay

Bet on the flop is fine.
Fold the Turn.
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