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Old 11-29-2006, 07:16 AM
ericicecream ericicecream is offline
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Default split pot on river, opponent flashes cards then mucks

Shorthanded limit game at a casino, no chopping and you are in a blind-blind battle against a guy who likes to play every hand and is running well, but obviously doesn't understand the game very well.

You have A6 and bet the AJ9K8 river, fully expecting that this guy will pay off with any king or jack (he called your c/r flop and turn bet) and hoping he didn't make 2 pair. He mumbles something that sounded like "kicker" and reluctantly calls. You table the A6 and he shakes his head and flashes A2 to you only and then mucks.

Do you just scoop in the pot or do you offer to split?
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:29 AM
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Default Re: split pot on river, opponent flashes cards then mucks

I know a lot of people here will say you should split the pot since he showed you his hand but I am from the school of poker that says that if you are playing for money then you ought to know what you are doing and if you don't then it's not up to me to help you.

If he had tabled his cards so that the dealer had seen them then he should have been given his half as he made the technically legal play.
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Old 11-29-2006, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: split pot on river, opponent flashes cards then mucks

I think you have to table it. I was playing in a game with my brother when he was just learning and he flashed me his cards that were good for a chop as he started to muck and I really couldn't help myself and started to say wait but it came out like "waaaaa" as his cards hit the muck. I didn't really mean to say anything and the villian would have every right to be pissed if I would have actually prevented the muck.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:39 AM
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Default Re: split pot on river, opponent flashes cards then mucks

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I think you have to table it. I was playing in a game with my brother when he was just learning and he flashed me his cards that were good for a chop as he started to muck and I really couldn't help myself and started to say wait but it came out like "waaaaa" as his cards hit the muck. I didn't really mean to say anything and the villian would have every right to be pissed if I would have actually prevented the muck.

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I think that's a different question since you are not involved in the hand. In that situation you should definitely not say anything.
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: split pot on river, opponent flashes cards then mucks

Shuffle up and deal. Next hand.
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: split pot on river, opponent flashes cards then mucks

explain the situation to him then tip dealer 1/2 the pot
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:10 AM
tom10167 tom10167 is offline
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Default Re: split pot on river, opponent flashes cards then mucks

Chop? lol

1.) Fish is running well against me - and I hate that
2.) Fish can't read the [censored] board and is playing well against me

I'd go with "Hey, want to chop? ...then learn how to play!"
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: split pot on river, opponent flashes cards then mucks

The pot is yours, and you're under no obligation to split it.

This having been said, I've split a pot in similar situations:

1. What do you think the 'guy's' reaction will be to this. If you think he's going to get pissed at himself and leave the table, chop the pot. You want this guy who calls every hand to stay as long as possible.

2. What's the texture of the game generally. Is everyone else sitting back, having a good time, revelling in the bonhommie and playing like glutted fish? If so, consider splitting the pot, keep it loose and keep everyone happy.

3. What are the stakes of the game. If it's a low limit noob game, I'd consider splitting it. Higher limit, less likely.

4. Did anyone point out the guy's error to him, and if so, how did he react. If I'm thinking about splitting the pot, I'm more likely to do so if the guy shrugs off the mistake than if he whines about it. I hate whiners.
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:45 AM
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The pot is yours

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