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Old 11-29-2006, 03:51 AM
HitNRunPoster HitNRunPoster is offline
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Default KJs gross flop action (50 6m)

Preflop raiser is something like 20/10/3 and the flop pusher is 46/26/1.7 or something.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $17.72
UTG+1: $39.95
CO: $41.93
hero: $51.85
SB: $53.43
BB: $14.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $2</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $7.5</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($23.25, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $7</font>, UTG+1 folds, hero calls.

Final pot: $37.25
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Old 11-29-2006, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: KJs gross flop action (50 6m)

This is a really light 3-bet preflop; I doubt a 20/10 is opening anything that will fold to a 3bet preflop, and his range likely has you crushed. Flop action sucks... probably a fold but it's close.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: KJs gross flop action (50 6m)

Looks like major spew to me. Let this one go
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: KJs gross flop action (50 6m)

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Looks like major spew to me. Let this one go

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Fold.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: KJs gross flop action (50 6m)

Yea technically this is a fold. Your getting a good price but your probably facing a set here. I don't know why you re-raised UTG with KJs, this is how problems begin. SO the flop comes out you missed, someone goes all in in front of you, and now you don't know what to do. Don't raise people in EP with a mediocre hand like KJ, pick your spots better.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: KJs gross flop action (50 6m)

I dont repop it PF, but since you did.... with 23 in there and 7 to call...ugh no let it go methinks.
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Old 11-29-2006, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: KJs gross flop action (50 6m)

I wouldn't usually do this preflop with KJ because it's way too easily dominated, but on the occation this might be good. Just don't make it a habit of yours. IMO the flop call is as standard as it gets.
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Old 11-29-2006, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: KJs gross flop action (50 6m)

I don't repop pre, but you can't let it go for 3.5:1.
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Old 11-29-2006, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: KJs gross flop action (50 6m)

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I don't repop pre, but you can't let it go for 3.5:1.

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Looks like Hero has possibly 6 outs possibly less, who knows if they're clean. I cant see him being ahead more than 5% of the time here. Calling, even at this price seems pretty leaky.
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Old 11-29-2006, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: KJs gross flop action (50 6m)

After reviewing the discussion, I think it's a fold.

Thanks for your help guys.

Results: I called and got shown either jj or 99.

It was a slightly -EV call considering pot odds (-$0.70 or something), and then worse considering the rake (-$1'ish).

That's a PTBB right there, and this is conceivably one of the very best spots for me. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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