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Old 11-27-2006, 01:35 AM
Crashem Crashem is offline
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Default NL600$ Bottom set on tough board 200BB deep

Villain is soros at 29/17/1.5

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($1847.15)
UTG ($1160)
MP ($740)
Hero ($1256.40)
Button ($332.25)
SB ($1146.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $18.

Flop: ($51) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $36</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $84</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $192</font>, BB calls $108.

Turn: ($435) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero ...



How do you guys play this here ? I see him holding 9T frequently here or 88 is also in his range ? Do I want to play for stacks here ? What about the Turn do you guys c/b for pot control or bet ?
What if you bet the turn around 350$ and he c/r allin ?
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:46 AM
billyjex billyjex is offline
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Default Re: NL600$ Bottom set on tough board 200BB deep

i stack off vs soros here. he can pull some weird, dumb moves imo, also, i have had him call me down lightly in spots where he shouldn't.

i would bet and call an all in, not feel great about it but i think you're missing value by checking the turn.
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:59 AM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default Re: NL600$ Bottom set on tough board 200BB deep

Your flop 3 bet size is very bad, make it like $250-300. If you're uncomfortable betting a safe turn after your 3 bet gets called then I wouldn't 3 bet the flop.
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Old 11-27-2006, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: NL600$ Bottom set on tough board 200BB deep

My first thought was to check behind for pot control. I don't think this deep we want to play for stacks with this board.

If you fire $350 on the turn and he CR AI, you have to fold, you can't beat anything and may be drawing to one out.
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Old 11-27-2006, 06:16 AM
PatInTheHat PatInTheHat is offline
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Default Re: NL600$ Bottom set on tough board 200BB deep

That flop re-raise sizing seems bad.
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Old 11-27-2006, 06:20 AM
viciouspenguin viciouspenguin is offline
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Default Re: NL600$ Bottom set on tough board 200BB deep

eh. what would you do if he pushed flop?
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Old 11-27-2006, 12:46 PM
Crashem Crashem is offline
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Default Re: NL600$ Bottom set on tough board 200BB deep

I think the play is to definitely bet the turn again. Against a show I had a really tough decision. Probably a call is +EV against this opponent. I don't have any specific reads.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: NL600$ Bottom set on tough board 200BB deep

lol soros is completley insane he dosnt have JJJ or T9 here if he has 2 pair or a strong multi-draw he stacks off every single time, he must have a marginal draw or a pair + gutshot type hand
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:45 PM
RiverHebrew2 RiverHebrew2 is offline
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Default Re: NL600$ Bottom set on tough board 200BB deep

i would say... $400 to dodge any actionkillers and puts pressure on handsilke J9 or JT who, if he's an idiot, will def shove and hope for miracle riv haha i dont think i'd check behind i would bet... if he shoves i would have rele tough decision i could not see set of J's b/c that repops from BB to CO raise... 9T and 88 def possible as u said... if i bet 400 i would call shove otherwise if dont wunna call shove check behind and hope for board to pair or like 2 of hearts to at least value bet if checked to
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Old 11-27-2006, 10:17 PM
luckychewy luckychewy is offline
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Default Re: NL600$ Bottom set on tough board 200BB deep

flop 3-bet seems bad in a vacuum. i would bet/call turn.
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