overpair facing donk bet from raymer

[b33nz]

k, so i think he most likely has a mid pair with possibly a club? he might do this with a set or very low flush.

keep in mind that i have him covered by 30 chips and if i bust him, i instantly win $250 for the bounty. so that immediate/guaranteed equity should surely be taken into account.

looking back i shouldve bet at least ~140, so disregard PF. holla.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1480)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1480)
MP2 (t1500)
Raymer (t1440)
CO+1 (t1690)
Hero (t1470)
Button (t1460)
SB (t1520)
BB (t1460)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t20, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls t20, Raymer calls t20, CO+1 calls t20, <font color="red">Hero raises to t120</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t100, UTG calls t100, MP2 calls t100, Raymer calls t100, <font color="gray">CO+1 folds</font>

Flop: (t630) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, <font color="red">Raymer bets t1320 (All-in)</font>, Hero

[tigerite]

Call but I think it's close.. not because of Raymer, you've got him beat more than enough to make the call, it's the other three morons behind you that may be the problem. Still, you've got QQ, so yeah looks like a call to me.

[Pudge714]

What's the buyin here etc.
I think I call.

[Snarf]

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Call but I think it's close.. not because of Raymer, you've got him beat more than enough to make the call, it's the other three morons behind you that may be the problem. Still, you've got QQ, so yeah looks like a call to me.

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yea, hand is much easier played w/out the donks in the way

I wanna agree w/the call - but leme think...I dunno...

we're flipping basically or crushed - which is not an ideal situation...so the ? is are we flipping (we're ahead, obv) often enough above the crushed possibility

+ the other donks

lemme think


Note: Heat of battle I prolly call

[b33nz]

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What's the buyin here etc.
I think I call.

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its technically a freeroll (15k fpps), but the buyin in comparison to the prizes should be $225 anyway does it really matter what the buyin is for this hand?

[b33nz]

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Call but I think it's close.. not because of Raymer, you've got him beat more than enough to make the call, it's the other three morons behind you that may be the problem. Still, you've got QQ, so yeah looks like a call to me.

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yea, hand is much easier played w/out the donks in the way

I wanna agree w/the call - but leme think...I dunno...

we're flipping basically or crushed - which is not an ideal situation...so the ? is are we flipping (we're ahead, obv) often enough above the crushed possibility

+ the other donks

lemme think


Note: Heat of battle I prolly call

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folding here as a 50/50 would be terrible. so flipping here is good for us.... also in order to emulate a coin flip he would need to have an FD and one/two overcards.. pretty unlikely IMO.

[Snarf]

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folding here as a 50/50 would be terrible. so flipping here is good for us.... also in order to emulate a coin flip he would need to have an FD and one/two overcards.. pretty unlikely IMO.

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obv folding a 50/50 here would be terrible

I was more speaking range wise, I figure us to be a 55% favorite or a pretty serious dog

then the ? become the % of times we're ahead vs the % of the time we're crushed

[Pudge714]

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What's the buyin here etc.
I think I call.

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its technically a freeroll (15k fpps), but the buyin in comparison to the prizes should be $225 anyway does it really matter what the buyin is for this hand?

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I was just wondering what Raymer was doing playing.
Also it has a marginal effect on whether or not you should call or fold.

[futuredoc85]

i call b/c of the added EV of the bounty

[aajiii]

I'm calling here, though it's not the easiest call to make imo.

So did you call? What did Raymer have? I'm just curious.