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Old 11-24-2006, 12:11 PM
zoneblitz zoneblitz is offline
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Default Pre-mature e-turn-ulation...a correct ruling?

1/2NL, heads up after the flop, player 1 pushes enough to put player 2 all in (~$100 pot). Before player 2 acts, the dealer deals the turn card (a 4)...then player 2 calls. Confusion sets in. Floor mgr comes over and this is what they did....dealer mucks the 4, shuffles the remainder of the deck, and then deals turn and river. The "new" turn card gave player 2 (behind in the hand) a nut-flush draw (the original 4 did not even help his hand?!?!). Player 1 is sweating...flush didn't hit.

Anyone seen this before? Was it a correct ruling?
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Old 11-24-2006, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: Pre-mature e-turn-ulation...a correct ruling?

No, this is incorrect. The 4 should be set aside. The dealer should burn and put up what woudl ahve been the river card, then the dealer should shuffle the 4 in with the remainder of the stub and put up one card.
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Old 11-24-2006, 12:26 PM
LasVegasMichael LasVegasMichael is offline
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Default Re: Pre-mature e-turn-ulation...a correct ruling?

Exactly what Randy said. This is how it is done in every Vegas room with an occasional exception where a floor has decided instead to reshuffle the exposed card right then, and put out a new turn without first putting out the would be river card. Never have I seen the exposed card become "dead"
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Old 11-24-2006, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: Pre-mature e-turn-ulation...a correct ruling?

The basic idea is to screw up the deck as little as possible when correcting things. So you make what would have been the river come out as the turn. Keep the three burn cards burned. Then shuffle/cut/deal river. So none of what would have been burned are now able to come out, and the premature turn card has a chance to reappear again on the river.
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Old 11-24-2006, 04:32 PM
jackdaniels jackdaniels is offline
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Default Re: Pre-mature e-turn-ulation...a correct ruling?

I concur with previos posters. Now, in the cse where the reshuffle the exposed turn card back in to the deck and "burn and turn" - do players who are not all in get a chance to bet before the river comes out or do they just deal out the river with no more action?
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Old 11-24-2006, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: Pre-mature e-turn-ulation...a correct ruling?

Action continues just like normal. What woulda been the river comes out as the turn, and people wager. Shuffle/cut/deal the river and action continues again.
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