$27 gross bubble spot

[laser16]

The hand history got messed up but I got the info right.

Blinds 300-600a25

UTG-840
BTN-10410
Laser16-1350
BB-900

2 folds, Laser16 is sb with 63o. Pushing here is -$1.31, is folding worse?

[Olback]

Well i would assume villian is auto-calling.

The problem is, if you fold then he has got a larger stack then yours, however you have a good chance of outlasting shorty will be all in through the blinds.

On the other hand if you push and lose you are crippled and i do not see how doubling here gaurntees u 2nd.

I think i fold here.

[ManChild]

fold this, hes probably calling really wide and there is no need to get involved

this is only interesting if the other shorty cant pay the blind next hand, but he can, so its an easy easy fold

[WristRocket]

No, I think folding is better. He's calling pretty much any two here and you'll still be 3rd in chips. I'd sit tight to see if the UTG busts over playing 63o with no fold equity.

[laser16]

FWIW 64o is a push but 63o is a fold if he is calling 100%. Also Manchild you do realize even if I lose this hand that short stack will be forced to win a showdown before me.

[ManChild]

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FWIW 64o is a push but 63o is a fold if he is calling 100%. Also Manchild you do realize even if I lose this hand that short stack will be forced to win a showdown before me.

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wow, okay you are right, i ran some SNGPT, and pushing 64o here is +0.1%, and 63o is -0.3% assuming he is calling 100% (if he is calling any less often than that the #s get better in your favor)

that said, this may very well be a call, id like to see what some accomplished posters have to say - the interesting part is that you can lose and still the other shorty has to win a showdown before you, i think this may be a shove but im not sure, definitely is very high variance though

[mmorpg]

/bump

Any other takers?

[futuredoc85]

Okay ill take a shot. Although Laser suckas way more than me so i would never be in this spot, in fact im probably the 10k stack b/c i own him that much.

I push vs a random, b/c he may actually fold some hands, and if you fold and shorty survives the blinds your not really in much better shape than if you push and lose if the blinds go up again by the time they get back to you. Unless 300/600 started on this hand or the one before just push it. Since when do you ever loswe an all-in anyway?

[bumpking]

I'm still not sure if I'd push or fold (probably push), but if you were to push, what about a stop n go? Unless he's the biggest donk in the world, he's autocalling. I think there's a better chance of him folding on the flop than folding preflop.

-BK

[BHokie1]

I'd fold and look for a better hand, chances are the next hand has to better than this one.