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Old 11-23-2006, 10:05 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

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Your reasoning also justifies stacking off with TPTK nearly always, which can't be good.

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Why do i keep hearing ppl say this??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Stacking off with TPTK in a HU pot is so very standard
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Old 11-23-2006, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

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Your reasoning also justifies stacking off with TPTK nearly always, which can't be good.

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Why do i keep hearing ppl say this??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Stacking off with TPTK in a HU pot is so very standard

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It does seem like it lately to tell the truth. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 11-24-2006, 06:43 AM
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

I'd say there is some merit in checking this flop. Its so dry that pot control might be a good idea?
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Old 11-24-2006, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

3-betting all in is the worst play by far.
at least let him bluff off or not fold a hand that you beat and he folds to a flop push.
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Old 11-24-2006, 08:13 AM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

I don't pot this flop. But if I do, I'm certainly folding here.
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Old 11-24-2006, 09:22 AM
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

I don't felt AK after a c/r on a flop like this from unknown.
There are no FD here, the only hand i am beating that is not bluffing is AQ.
He could have something like A3s or A6s, sets are in his range as well.
I can't call, cause i'll be in the same spot on the turn, unless K comes, it's either fold or allin.
Mostly, i prefer folding here.

Now, if you say that you saw him make crazy fishy plays after that and you had that info during that hand, that's different.
As it is, i probably fold and wait for a better spot.
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Old 11-24-2006, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

I can't see check raising a set here on a board that dry. I would smooth call if I made a set and raise turn/river. So, I doubt we'll see a set here. Maybe a flopped 2 pair - A3/A6. You're still got lots of outs, call and play Poker. If the turn is a good card for you anything other than 3 or 6 probably), I'd bet/re-raise all in.
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Old 11-24-2006, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

I call here and let him carry the betting...The board is dry and you made a PSB on the flop anybody with a brain will see that you like your hand and slowplay a monster(ie..sets and 2 pair)...And if your villain has no brain and is trying to be cute that widens his range even greater and makes TPTK more +EV in this situation..

You also say you are laggy but if villain is new to the table he doesn't know this..Unless he has datamined..Stacking off here against an unknown I feel is standard..You are in a steal position(I assume..Lack of position info. may change my opinion should you be in EP) and make a steal raise..Many villains at this level will make this play with hands like 88-KK,weaker aces,67s,34s and air..
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Old 11-24-2006, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

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I'd say there is some merit in checking this flop. Its so dry that pot control might be a good idea?

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The correct pot control line here is pot-pot-shove.
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Old 11-24-2006, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: Jeez... can anything but folding be right, here?

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I'd say there is some merit in checking this flop. Its so dry that pot control might be a good idea?

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The correct pot control line here is pot-pot-shove.

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Agreed
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