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Old 11-23-2006, 08:41 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default nl100 fancy play T9s

I usually don't raise like this but decided it was time. Call of the reraise is kinda loose, but my hand is disguised and I have decent odds and position.

Note UTG+1 stacksize.


BB: 35/7/2.38/178

UTG+1: 63/0/4.0/8(lol)


No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $13.00
UTG+1: $61.15
CO: $266.90
Hero: $139.70
SB: $111.75
BB: $95.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $12.5</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($38, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $16</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $127.2</font>
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: nl100 fancy play T9s

This doesn't seem like a good spot to semi bluff. If this guy is 63/0 (!??!) then he pretty much HAS to have an overpair here and your FE is next to zero so you have to hit your flush. I'd just call and see what happens on the turn.

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Old 11-23-2006, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: nl100 fancy play T9s

when you shove like that, are you sure that the BB isn't lurking with an overpair? The only problem I see in this hand is the guy to act behind you...otherwise it looks good.(could still work with guy behind you, but much riskier imo)
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: nl100 fancy play T9s

Raise seems pretty standard, do more of it imo. It's not a spew to call little more than a 2x reraise either. I don't know about moving all in on the flop though, you're effectively thinking that your overcards are outs which I doubt. I really don't think that the BB has donkraised to 12 just to check fold the flop, you'll not get rid of him, and that he has a big pair, so you're pushing just a flush draw which isn't that great.

Depends on you're read of the BB, if he's weak then shoving is good against the medium stack. If you think you may be called all in by BB, then I'd fold flop as he is probably checking with intent to raise.
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: nl100 fancy play T9s

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This doesn't seem like a good spot to semi bluff. If this guy is 63/0 (!??!) then he pretty much HAS to have an overpair here and your FE is next to zero so you have to hit your flush. I'd just call and see what happens on the turn.

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I agree with just calling but I don't like your explanation. OP says 63/0 is over 8 hands, which is enough for me to say that he sucks, but who knows how he really plays. He really could have anything. I call and keep the pot small, hope to hit something on the turn. I think that the BB is unlikely to check raise, and 63/0 guy is probably checking a lot of turn cards unless he has a massive hand, which we really don't know yet.
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: nl100 fancy play T9s

why do you think it's unlikely the BB will c/r?
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:07 PM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Default Re: nl100 fancy play T9s

PF raise is super standard.

The thing about this raise is that BB will fold AK, maybe even JJ, but UTG+1 might call with junk like A5, which we are a favorite over I think, esp with dead $$ in pot.

Not sure if its a move I would make though.
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: nl100 fancy play T9s

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why do you think it's unlikely the BB will c/r?

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Because that would be a really weird play?
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:15 PM
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PF raise is super standard.

The thing about this raise is that BB will fold AK, maybe even JJ, but UTG+1 might call with junk like A5, which we are a favorite over I think, esp with dead $$ in pot.

Not sure if its a move I would make though.

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If the BB checked this board with JJ, it's because he's check raising all in, unless he requires a set to put anymore cash in. And you're pretty much hoping that the mid stack guy has 77, 88 or top pair. That gives plenty enough outs to get my money in against him, but I still fold as BB's behaviour is very odd.
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Old 11-23-2006, 09:17 PM
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but I still fold as BB's behaviour is very odd.

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lol, BB is FOS or he has AK/AQs.
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