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Old 11-23-2006, 10:56 AM
$upermad4it $upermad4it is offline
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Default $10 K3s C/R flush draw

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1700
UTG+1: t545
MP1: t1155
MP2: t2365
MP3: t1365
CO: t2060
Button: t1395
Hero: t1475
BB: t1440

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t45)</font>, MP3 calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t75)</font>, CO calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t105)</font>, Button folds, Hero calls t15 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t135)</font>, BB folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t150, 4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 bets t180</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1445</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 calls all-in t1155</font>.
Uncalled bets: t110 returned to Hero.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t2820, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t2820)


River: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t2820, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t2820)


Results:
Final pot: t2820

I normally try this in this scenario when the pot is worth taking. Is it a major leak?
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:05 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: $10 K3s C/R flush draw

MP3 bet the pot in a 5 way pot. Should take it seriously, I think.

I fold in a heatbeat. I think you need some pair or sort of combo draw to try this profitably.

And so to be not tempted to do this kind of things, I usually fold preflop.
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: $10 K3s C/R flush draw

Your draw isnt very big, let this one go.
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:58 AM
$upermad4it $upermad4it is offline
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Default Re: $10 K3s C/R flush draw

what if I had two overcards?
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Old 11-23-2006, 12:31 PM
$upermad4it $upermad4it is offline
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Default Re: $10 K3s C/R flush draw

Still curious about this, as I do it a lot. Am I wrong here because the pot isn't big enough for me to make the move, or because I'm very likely to be called.
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Old 11-23-2006, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: $10 K3s C/R flush draw

Same for me with 2 overs.

The thing is, in fact, that I almost do not play any draw in SnG.
Except very very strong ones, maybe.

But again, I am probably not a good example ...
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Old 11-23-2006, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: $10 K3s C/R flush draw

The reasons why its a bad idea are that it's early in the tournament and you have a healthy stack, you don't want to risk it all here. And both of the reasons you pointed out. Plus you arent even drawing to the nuts, O.k. it's close, but I think It makes a difference. Even if you had 2 overcards your overcards might not be outs. In a multi-way pot like this it's best to let this go.
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Old 11-23-2006, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: $10 K3s C/R flush draw

Ewwwww super spewage. Just fold on the flop.
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: $10 K3s C/R flush draw

He's overbetting the pot, looks like he's protecting his hand. I don't think the c/r has enough fold equity to work here, and your flush isn't even to the nuts.
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: $10 K3s C/R flush draw

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And so to be not tempted to do this kind of things, I usually fold preflop.

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Getting 11:1 on the call assuming the BB doesn't raise, I complete with any two here, but I only get frisky if I hit two pair or better on the flop.
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