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#1
11-23-2006, 06:34 AM
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Weird spot with KJs
Villain is 31/13/1. Pretty loose passive overall... What's my move here?
Poker Stars No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $2/$4 4 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $317.55 Hero: $488.35 SB: $396 BB: $186.20 Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $12</font>, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($38, 3 players) BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $30</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $60</font>, Hero?????? 
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#2
11-23-2006, 06:39 AM
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Re: Weird spot with KJs
Thats messed up. I think I just call here but I don't really like it [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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#3
11-23-2006, 06:44 AM
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Re: Weird spot with KJs
stack off if he has the str8 made. hey, you got outs...
He will usually have a hand like a str9 flush draw, pr and str8 draw, or pr and lfush draw.... some kind of draw. so id raise back to about 160. If he flat calls u im pretty sure ur way ahead and he is looking to hit a card on turn. If he does hit his miracle on turn and stacks you.. good for him. he deserves to get what he paid for. If he pushes on flop, well... Id still call. It could be a big draw pushing hoping for a fold or whatever. Would a big hand like a set check to you on such a coordinated board and proceed to reraise only the minimum??? I think this is usually a draw type hand or the flopped nuts. This is would be a lisghtly wierd spot for AK i guess but not for top 2 pr!
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#4
11-23-2006, 07:07 AM
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Re: Weird spot with KJs
I had almost the exact same hand, villan, and board and min c/r. This is probably a set. At least that's what my villan had. I called the minraise and folded the turn.
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#7
11-23-2006, 09:11 AM
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Re: Weird spot with KJs
Push
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#8
11-23-2006, 10:35 AM
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Re: Weird spot with KJs
Interesting spot. What goes through my head is: What hand does villain choose to CR instead of bet out on this flop?
The flop is quite likely to have hit someone with a draw or a made hand, so if villain has flopped a straight/trips, doesn't it make more sense to bet and hope to get raised and also stop villains from checking behind and getting a free card? It should also be quite unlikely that any of villains would try a bluff on this board, since someone probably has hit it. Also, why does he only minraise on such a board? Regardless of his hand, isn't he at least scared of the FD? (Well, I guess he could hold QTc...) Having said this, I really don't know what villain could possibly hold here. If villain is a good player, I would still tend to be cautious, but a bad player can easily play AA, K9, FD, SD or whatever like this... Without a better read, I think I am inclined to push, but I am not too excited about it...
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#10
11-23-2006, 11:58 AM
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Re: Weird spot with KJs
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I call because it's cheap and we likely have a few outs. Then I fold to any reasonable turn bet. [/ QUOTE ] Seems sensible to me. Villain may also be scared that we called if he DOESN'T have something big, so we may be able to make a thin value bet on the river if no more money is needed to get there.
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