suspicious limp?

Dr1Gonzo · #1 11-21-2006, 05:20 PM

A suspicious limp from a tight player here.
I think I would go all-in anyway as I'm running low?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t250/t500
(Ante: t50)
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t13782
UTG+1: t2035
MP1: t19800
MP2: t5740
CO: t11595
Hero: t7275
SB: t6883
BB: t20780

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls t500 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1150)</font>, 4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t7225</font>

AceLuby · #2 11-21-2006, 05:37 PM

Seems standard to me, a raise to 2k would be ok if you're deeper, but I hate raising 2k to be SNG'd on the flop.

mornelth · #3 11-21-2006, 05:40 PM

UTG limp is always suspicious. UTG limp from a tight player is a timebomb.

Min-raise and fold to pretty much any action from him.

Dr1Gonzo · #4 11-21-2006, 05:44 PM

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UTG limp is always suspicious. UTG limp from a tight player is a timebomb.

Min-raise and fold to pretty much any action from him.

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you sure? A UTG limp can be a lot from medium pairs upwards. I wouldn't include the QJ+, KT+ type hands here. No one at the table has been really ative with reraising so doubt it's a setup?

What I have been finding more lately is players cold calling with Aces which is not nice when you have AK, KK, QQ, etc.

helloimcdog · #5 11-21-2006, 05:47 PM

Yeah i think the push is fine here, has he been TAG or just plain tight? Has he been open limping at all? If youve seen him open limp anything else this is even more clearly a push, sounds like he probably had AA here but i think its fine.

mornelth · #6 11-21-2006, 05:59 PM

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UTG limp is always suspicious. UTG limp from a tight player is a timebomb.

Min-raise and fold to pretty much any action from him.

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you sure? A UTG limp can be a lot from medium pairs upwards. I wouldn't include the QJ+, KT+ type hands here. No one at the table has been really ative with reraising so doubt it's a setup?

What I have been finding more lately is players cold calling with Aces which is not nice when you have AK, KK, QQ, etc.

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And that's why I raise...

Dr1Gonzo · #7 11-21-2006, 06:51 PM

but a min raise doesn't help you define his hand, he may just call anyway.
If I raise 2k (3BBs plus the limper) that is a large majority of my stack.

durkahdurkah · #8 11-21-2006, 07:02 PM

If I'm UTG here, the worst hand you are seeing out of me is AKo.

Options are basically push, fold, or call. I actually kind of like a call here, and really I have no idea why. This would be a hand that I play on gut feel.

I wish I had better advice than this, but every option you have with AQo here basically sucks.

Dr1Gonzo · #9 11-22-2006, 07:17 AM

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If I'm UTG here, the worst hand you are seeing out of me is AKo.

Options are basically push, fold, or call. I actually kind of like a call here, and really I have no idea why. This would be a hand that I play on gut feel.

I wish I had better advice than this, but every option you have with AQo here basically sucks.

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I agree with that but although I'm not desperate, I am running slightly low. What UTG actually limped was KK.
I suppose if I'd hit a Q, I would be getting all the money in there anyway.
I will remember this line next time I face a tight player in EP like this "If I'm UTG here, the worst hand you are seeing out of me is AKo."

hencole · #10 11-22-2006, 09:27 AM

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UTG limp is always suspicious. UTG limp from a tight player is a timebomb.

Min-raise and fold to pretty much any action from him.

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What does that achieve? They are either calling or raising. If they raise, then throw your hand away, and if they call you still haven't found out anything.

From my experience you see the UTG player fold enough, or call with a pocket pair to make a push my choice.