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Old 11-22-2006, 04:44 AM
nath nath is offline
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Default Re: Nightly 150 88 vs. an early position push

uh this is a pretty easy call, i can't believe you guys put > 10BB stacks on such tight ranges when they push in EP. if you guys play like this with your OWN pushing ranges, it's a huge leak and you'll find yourself far too short to compete.
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Old 11-22-2006, 05:03 AM
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Default Re: Nightly 150 88 vs. an early position push

I like pushing total crap from UTG with 9 BBs just b/c ppl think like everyone in this thread. Ohhhh, he must have QQ+. LOL.

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Your right if he is pushing optimally, I mean villain prob should be pushing something like 99+ AQs+ but he easily could be shoving wider.

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This statement is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off.


Edit: Keep in mind that the 200-400 level is a big jump on Stars. The good players who get to that level with less than 5000 or so are going to start puhing like crazy out of nowhere (b/c 2 seconds ago they may have had 25BB).
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Old 11-22-2006, 05:46 AM
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Default Re: Nightly 150 88 vs. an early position push

Most defenitly a call here. Yes your probably in a flip, but you have an edge and need to gather more chips to have a shot at winning the event. You only have one player behind you makes you a favorite in this hand. You need his chips and this a pretty good spot for you. Unless you have great notes and played many tournys with him its a must call 85% of the time.
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Old 11-22-2006, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: Nightly 150 88 vs. an early position push

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call all day every day.

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i assume you mean repush to isolate ya?

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I don't think it makes any difference given BB's stack, does it?
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Old 11-22-2006, 06:10 AM
LarsVegas LarsVegas is offline
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Default Re: Nightly 150 88 vs. an early position push

This is probably a bit tightish 9-handed with 9bbs and 0.5bb in antes, but not far from correct.

Throw in AQo and take away the blinds, and it should be about correct.

Giving hero a pretty broad pushing range (remember, he could easily let the blinds pass before going into very heavy pushing mode, especially in late position hands, and the next round it will also be correct to be pushing much wider from EP), I get these numbers from PokerStove;

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 45.1827 % 44.50% 00.69% { 88 }
Hand 2: 54.8173 % 54.13% 00.69% { 66+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+ }

In other words, a close call given the blinds, but there is a player behind who will probably only come in with JJ+ and AK (maybe only suited), in which case your tournament will be over 70-75% of the time.
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Old 11-22-2006, 06:15 AM
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Default Re: Nightly 150 88 vs. an early position push

AQs+, 99+ is slightly too tight. More like AQo+ (with AJs and KQs as well) and 88+, I guess, but any worse than that is just trying to take the worst of it with eight random hands behind you.

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Old 11-22-2006, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: Nightly 150 88 vs. an early position push

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This is probably a bit tightish 9-handed with 9bbs and 0.5bb in antes, but not far from correct.

Throw in AQo and take away the blinds, and it should be about correct.

Giving hero a pretty broad pushing range (remember, he could easily let the blinds pass before going into very heavy pushing mode, especially in late position hands, and the next round it will also be correct to be pushing much wider from EP), I get these numbers from PokerStove;

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 45.1827 % 44.50% 00.69% { 88 }
Hand 2: 54.8173 % 54.13% 00.69% { 66+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+ }

In other words, a close call given the blinds, but there is a player behind who will probably only come in with JJ+ and AK (maybe only suited), in which case your tournament will be over 70-75% of the time.

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I think anything looser than this pushing range is pretty bad. Calling here is barely +EV.
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