PLO8 - Theoretical Question.

[Phil153]

Kuso - betting range was nearly non existent. He potted monsters only. Occassionally he 1/2 pot bet when checked to for two streets - and this was always a bluff, which you could call with top pair or better. I'm not making this up.

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I would play every hand but would limp with most hands to descrease variance. Then just bet your strong hands strongly postflop.

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This will win, but it's long long way from optimal play. And if he gets bored, or we have limited time to play him, we're leaving a heap of money on the table. I'm hoping someone has an answer with a mathematical/hand frequency argument to it. Split suit's was pretty good, though I disagree with some of it.

Against this particular opponent I slowly ground him down to half his stack, but it was frustrating. The few times I made big hands, not having increased the pot size on early streets cost me significant money by the river.

[Kuso]

what a dream.

i can't really give you a mathematical argument, but...

i'd pretty much play almost 100% of my hands -- maybe fold my jankiest hands occassionally for the sake of appearances. i'd usually be passive unless i had 2pr or better and/or a decent draw. i'd occassionally value raise pf with position. i'd also take some occasssional stabs at the pot on the flop with position with air. i'd value bet a wide range even if the board was paired (and i didn't have trips or better) or had a three-flush that i didn't have.

most of my experience against these kinds of players is in HU/SH LHE, so i'm kind of projecting a bit here, but...

the key thing is to be VERY patient and just constantly ask yourself "is this a value bet?". for pl games, you also need to ask if you should build the pot for later potential value bets, but it's the same idea. what you DO NOT do is try to run over the person when you have air or extremely marginal holdings -- they will eat you alive.

[Split Suit]

Phil...when u tell us ur optimal way of playin him (and no, im not being an ass here), plz let me kno what changes from my plan of action.

Im actually very interested to see how u play this kind of opponent

and i think rly only Buzz can give us the whole mathematical part of this...but i dont even kno if there is a correct mathematical way to approach it. being that folding frequency is just based on how often he folds flop and turn. and that is based on how well he is hittin. i dunno...maybe its the beer talkin, but im pretty sure it just boils down to basic game theory with a lack of numbers.