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11-16-2006, 04:21 PM
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Re: ($60) JJ Line Q
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hm...i dont know how other react...but in generall i almost always push against people who bet into my PF-Raise...and 90% of the time they give it up... So you should only try it against somehow tight opponents. Against people like me you`re good by check/calling to induce a 2nd barrel-bluff...if you raise me on the turn, i believe that my AK is no good anymore... The problem with this line is, that it could be very expensive... [/ QUOTE ] You won't be happy when I'm leading a set into you. [/ QUOTE ] But most people lead with weakish hands. In general, i dont think its a bad play to push over most flop leads. In this hand, if you're leading, i only like it if you're going to the felt with your hand (usually). There board is soo dry people can very easily put you on a weak/nothing hand and try to push you off. [/ QUOTE ] It's fine sometimes of course, but "almost always" doing it is not a good policy. 
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#12
11-16-2006, 04:22 PM
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Re: ($60) JJ Line Q
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should i lead for less here ? [/ QUOTE ] No, I think your lead is good. If anything I would lead for a little more.....I think you want villians to either fold or push all-in. This is the kind of hand that works better live, so you can watch your opponents reaction to your pot size flop bet.....but oh well.
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#13
11-16-2006, 04:22 PM
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Re: ($60) JJ Line Q
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should i lead for less here ? [/ QUOTE ] what would that help? Then you`ll get called by AK etc and know nothing. Or you get raised by a donk like me  with AK etc...I am even more likely to raise small bets.I would suggest to check and raise...(not crai!!!) Again: the problem is, that it is very expensive. But if you are sure villain only continues with QQ+ you have a easy laydown after a push...(even aggro`s like me wouldnt push with AK after a raise...) So we would have to do the maths how often he has QQ+ and hands you can beat like AK/AQ/AJ? TT... The more i think about it, the more it depends if your opp is tight or laggy...(I hate this general sentence...but its true in this case).
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#14
11-16-2006, 04:25 PM
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Re: ($60) JJ Line Q
bengie,
you are right, this board is so drawless, 175 accomplishes the same thing here. as for the rest of the hand, im getting it in on any card <J on the turn, and folding to a flop raise.
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#15
11-16-2006, 05:14 PM
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Re: ($60) JJ Line Q
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bengie, you are right, this board is so drawless, 175 accomplishes the same thing here. as for the rest of the hand, im getting it in on any card <J on the turn, and folding to a flop raise. [/ QUOTE ] This hand has the potential to get tricky fast, given bengiec showed no strength preflop, 99-TT hands could push as well as QQ+... This hand just sucks donkey and makes me want to go back to the play money tables, but since I am stuck, I would suck it up lead for 2/3 of the pot and be ready to fire another barrel (all-in) on the turn, repping a 6 and turning JJ into 72o...
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