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Old 11-12-2006, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: Why was there a huge increase in players at stars and ft but not U

my non-scientific estimate would be 2000 players across the board in growth, not like FTP though.
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Old 11-12-2006, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: Why was there a huge increase in players at stars and ft but not U

Yeah, i really think stars and ftp have games way more fishier than UB it's the rb, bonus, and stware that keep me a customer for sure.
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Old 11-12-2006, 12:50 PM
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Earlier this year many players waited weeks for cashouts because of server problems. There still are too many sites left in the world to allow for poor customer service. UB is paying the price today for having poor customer service during its server upgrades. Customers should of never paid the price they did because Ultimate bet had server problems, or a cash crisis. Even before the server upgrade cashouts were not very fast. Oh yeah, they also cut in 1/2 the rate they were applying bonus within the last year.
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Old 11-12-2006, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: Why was there a huge increase in players at stars and ft but not U

Your numbers are peak which is misleading. Average numbers are much more reliable:

http://www.pokersitescout.com/Legislation.htm
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Old 11-12-2006, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Why was there a huge increase in players at stars and ft but not U

mb, actually, there is a strong correlation between the ordering of sites based on peak and avg.

fwiw, if you want more detailed analysis, including a look at the MTT and SNG numbers as well, you'll find it in the Official Tracking thread
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Old 11-12-2006, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: Why was there a huge increase in players at stars and ft but not U

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Your numbers are peak which is misleading. Average numbers are much more reliable:

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umm - while my numbers are only peak and average IS better - both are showing the same type of movement. I don't think my grapg is misleading at all.

Not to argue but I have no idea what you are trying to say.

THERE numbers are only using peak also. Their graphs are showing two completely different sets of numbers. One has nothing to do with the other.
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Old 11-12-2006, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: Why was there a huge increase in players at stars and ft but not U

Webster, just as a heads up the 7day avg now showing on Scout's main page is a 7 day avg of the averages, not peaks... which I assume was his point.

The graphs, however, as you pointed out, look pretty much the same, just different values.
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Old 11-13-2006, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: Why was there a huge increase in players at stars and ft but not U

yes, that what I meant.

When you look at averages, then in relative numbers FTP grew way more than others. In absolute numbers Stars grew a bit more than FTP (discarding WCOOP time). Stars grew faster than Bodog even in relative terms.

While peaks show the same tendency, they are less reliable to assess the traffic. Also you can't detect from peaks whether a site has a good mix of US and non-US players.
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Old 11-13-2006, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: Why was there a huge increase in players at stars and ft but not U

I see what you are saying - understood!! [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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