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Turn the second nut flush, thoughts all around
No reads on villian is it's like the 7th hand I've played at this table.
As the post title says. Thoughts all around on how I played this hand appreciated. Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Tournament Blinds: t20/t40 9 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: t1230 UTG+1: t3255 MP1: t3405 MP2: t2910 Hero: t2910 CO: t2955 Button: t4585 SB: t2965 BB: t2785 Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to t140</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t400</font>, 4 folds, MP1 calls t260 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t600)</font>. Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t860, 2 players) MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t500</font>, MP1 calls t500 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1360)</font>. Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t1860, 2 players) MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t1000</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises all-in t2505</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero... |
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Re: Turn the second nut flush, thoughts all around
I think the reraise preflop with AQo against an unknown is questionable but at the same time it puts you into position by knocking out LP players. When he calls the bet on the flop I figure "OK, he's got the A of spades"...and then it pops up on the turn. If he would have bet out, I would have been more certain of a bluff, this is a pretty nice play if he doesn't have a high flush. However, with the second nuts you might just have to eat it and call, he could do this with a lower spade, like slowplaying the flop with JTs (I know you wouldn't do it but some poeple do). I don't think your flop bet matters much because a decent flush draw is calling here no matter what but a worse hand is folding. Sorry I lost my train of thought I am getting distracted by the poor play of my football team.
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Re: Turn the second nut flush, thoughts all around
Anyone else?
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Re: Turn the second nut flush, thoughts all around
hero calls, folding here is really nitty with the second nuts and 2/3 of your stack already invested... if you're behind, tip your hat to your opponent, but you can't fold here
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Re: Turn the second nut flush, thoughts all around
I'm more concerned with the rest of the line. Calling with teh second nuts here on the turn I think is standard.
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Re: Turn the second nut flush, thoughts all around
well other than the reraise preflop it's all pretty standard... you don't HAVE to bet this flop as a free card doesn't scare you, but betting isn't a mistake, and can give you info. When he calls the flop bet you have to figure he's got a spade, and when he checks on the turn it's pretty obvious he's trying to trap.
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Re: Turn the second nut flush, thoughts all around
Without reads, I think the reraise is pretty bad w/AQo, you may buy the button at a tight table, but other than that I think it's a bad play. At this stage of the tournament, I'm not sure if calling an EP or earlyMP raise w/AQo is EV+, unless you have a read that you can outplay the raiser on the flop (when you both miss.) On the flop the c-bet is ok w/ the As, but with your hand, I like a check better. As played, call the push and expect to lose 80+% of the time.
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Re: Turn the second nut flush, thoughts all around
A call here is standard as played. You have 2/3 of your chips in and have the 2nd nuts, easy call. I don't mind the preflop reraise at all as you have position, but I prefer a call. I may have raised a little less on the flop c-bet, but thats me and I'm probably wrong.
I disagree however with the above poster about losing 80% of the time. Hero is behind exactly 1 hand. I think, much more often than not, Hero wins. |
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Re: Turn the second nut flush, thoughts all around
I think preflop you committed to going to the felt with this hand by raising to 400 becaus the pot has almost a thousand and you have 2500 behind and if you cbet a reasonable amount on that flop your giving odds to stack you with his flush and if you miss completely you've put out almost half your stack anyways with a cbet so you kind of have to push or call any turn.
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Re: Turn the second nut flush, thoughts all around
C-C flop C-R turn is always a monster. Although it could have been a flopped monster that lost value on the turn.
I can't get away from this most of the time. |
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