Are the Mid-Low limit full ring games on PokerStars Beatable? ?

[dbeckham]

After consistently beating the 10/20 game on party before the legislation, i have had no such luck on the low limit games on stars. I would consider myself a very unexperienced 6 max player but considering how tight/conservative the full ring games are, do I need to learn the 6 max game?

PREFLOP ANALYSIS: On party I was running at about 1.2bb/100 hands and relying very little on the game selection. I would occasionally notice when pokerace put the VPIP at over 25% for the table but nothing more than that in general. Now these full ring games, mainly the 5/10 games due to the lack of 10/20 games, are running at 22-25% of players seeing the flop which is far below the equivalent VPIP% of party. To extend this even further I have had multiple situations where players are simply calling a preflop raise with tt-kk, just calling out of blinds and very reluctant to cap jj-kk, ak.

Post Flop analysis: These players are about the most conservative i have ever experienced in my life. They generally like to lead out with top pair, pocket pairs on rag boards and with draws. I see very little check raising after the flop compared to that on party.

Some situations that i came across tonight. I had AT in late position, 3 bet by the button. Two to the flop. xxT. I check raise the flop, turn and river blank and I get called down by the button with JJ.

Another one. I open raise with qq, bb 3 bets, i cap. Flop comes out ace high. bb checks, i bet, bb calls. turn blank, bb checks i check. river another ace, bb checks, i bet, bb calls and shows kk.

final situation: i have jt. flop comes 789. 4 to the flop. heavy action. 4 ways to the turn which is another 9. bb bets, one call, i raise, button calls, bb calls one fold. 3 to river. bb checks, i bet, button calls, bb folds. buton shows 99. says he wanted to show his first four of a kind.

Is this what these games have become?!?! And is it possible to beat them and at what line?

Comments, Advise and Reactions greatly appreciated,
DBECKHAM

[Allday Everyday]

Yes, the mid-low limit full ring games on PokerStars definately are beatable. If I can do it...

[ QUOTE ]
I would consider myself a very unexperienced 6 max player but considering how tight/conservative the full ring games are, do I need to learn the 6 max game?

[/ QUOTE ]

I think learning the skills needed to beat shorthanded games will benefit your full-ring skills greatly. They're also profitable/enjoyable in and of themselves...

What you have described in this post seems to me to be a combination of bad luck on your part, and poor play on your opponents' part. This suggests that the games would be beatable in the longrun...

[TheHip41]

yeah, I wish my opponents always extracted the maximum out of me as well.