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Re: ugly hand vs Justin A Bellagio 30/60
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i prefer to limp utg with 99 and 88. a really good pro taught me why this is good in so many ways. [/ QUOTE ] So teach us. You can't just leave us hanging. |
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Re: ugly hand vs Justin A Bellagio 30/60
If you're going to ch/f the river with 99 on a 64263 board, ch/f the flop.
Kind of like a training hand of how not to play 99. I would have led/3 bet the flop and figured I would hope to know if I'm good from there. |
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Re: ugly hand vs Justin A Bellagio 30/60
in a typical loose mid limit game you see a lot of flops with 3-4 people even if you raise. that's the wrong amount for something like 99, you want to get it either heads up or 5 way or better. one you hope you hold up unimproved. with the other you hope you flop a set. it's better to go the flop a set route. also when you do flop an overpair or set people wont put you on the hand as readily if theyre the hand reading sort.
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Re: ugly hand vs Justin A Bellagio 30/60
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also when you do flop an overpair or set people wont put you on the hand as readily if theyre the hand reading sort. [/ QUOTE ] I dunno Mike. Tight players limping/overlimping and jamming innocuous flops screams set. |
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Re: ugly hand vs Justin A Bellagio 30/60
Every fold gives up on the whole pot. This one is disastrous in that he's given Justin absolutely no clue that he has an overpair. To me it's a cardinal sin: Thou shalt not make a "big" laydown after one has slowplayed a bigger hand than your opponent, given how you played it, will give you credit for.
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Re: ugly hand vs Justin A Bellagio 30/60
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"how do you ever make this fold?" im fond of the discipline this fold takes. it's a nuanced play and good way to play this hand against 90% of players or something. just not the best line here. fwiw the fold is not that bad even though it gives up on the whole pot. justin's range includes a lot of hands that have 99 crushed. a fold is wrong it's just not a disaster. he's going to get shown JJ and QQ a lot here. [/ QUOTE ] It's a disaster even though he's going to see JJ and QQ here all the fricken time, don't kid yourself. You need to get off or get back on your meds. |
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Re: ugly hand vs Justin A Bellagio 30/60
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[ QUOTE ] also when you do flop an overpair or set people wont put you on the hand as readily if theyre the hand reading sort. [/ QUOTE ] I dunno Mike. Tight players limping/overlimping and jamming innocuous flops screams set. [/ QUOTE ] the good thing about them putting you on a set is they call you down anyway. |
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Re: ugly hand vs Justin A Bellagio 30/60
call the river.
i probably c/r the turn, though I think your line is fine against a player who will make a slim valuebet - sans folding the river. |
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Re: ugly hand vs Justin A Bellagio 30/60
Given how you played the hand, I would definitely call the river. I would expect to lose most of the time, but win more than 12% of the time. He will have unimproved overcards or a lower pocket pair more than 12% of the time.
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Re: ugly hand vs Justin A Bellagio 30/60
What hands do you open raise UTG, just call a 3bet, and take this line with? This is an easy value bet for AK.
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