Need Review on a few big hands

allaboutheu · #1 11-08-2006, 04:16 PM

These were a couple huge hands that came up in my last session that I could really use some advice on any and all input would be greatly appreciated, allthough more then a fold preflop or something similar to that would be nice, thanks.

 1
No real reads on opponent but he hasn't done anything out of line or crazy.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($163.10)
Button ($49.25)
SB ($107.85)
Hero ($134.10)
UTG ($64.50)
MP ($90.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

, A

.
[color=#666666]1 fold, [color=#CC3333]MP raises to $3, [color=#666666]1 fold, Button calls $3, [color=#666666]1 fold, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $8, MP calls $5, Button folds.

Flop: ($19.50) 5

, 3

, 9

[color=#0000FF](2 players)
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $8, MP calls $8.

Turn: ($35.50) 6

[color=#0000FF](2 players)
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $25, [color=#CC3333]MP raises to $58, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $91.

 2
Again I don't have any read on the opponent. I think I played this hand fine except for the river I should have checked behind, what do you think?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($124.10)
CO ($94.35)
Hero ($123.75)
SB ($54.50)
BB ($85.10)
UTG ($46.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, K

.
[color=#666666]1 fold, MP calls $1, [color=#CC3333]CO raises to $4, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $10, [color=#666666]2 folds, MP calls $9, CO calls $6.

Flop: ($31.50) T

, 9

, 5

[color=#0000FF](3 players)
MP checks, CO checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $15, MP calls $15, CO folds.

Turn: ($61.50) 6

[color=#0000FF](2 players)
MP checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $15, MP calls $15.

River: ($91.50) J

[color=#0000FF](2 players)
MP checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $15, [color=#CC3333]MP raises to $50, Hero ???

 3
I am able to put him on the 7 almost immediatly and for sure on the turn and figure hes slowplaying his trips and will play the river agressivly.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($68.45)
Button ($13)
Hero ($131.20)
BB ($85.95)
UTG ($83.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2

, 2

.
[color=#666666]1 fold, MP calls $1, Button calls $1, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) 7

, 7

, 2

[color=#0000FF](4 players)
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $1, BB calls $1, MP calls $1, Button folds.

Turn: ($7) A

[color=#0000FF](3 players)
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $3, BB calls $3, MP folds.

River: ($13) 3

[color=#0000FF](2 players)
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $8, [color=#CC3333]BB raises to $30, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $126.2.

 4
Can I get away from this hand here? When he goes allin I put him on either a bluff ie flush/straight draw w/ a pair, j10 for the straight, or he hit the ace on turn for a better 2 pair then mine, what do you think?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($53.70)
UTG ($45.80)
Hero ($98.50)
CO ($57.85)
Button ($122.10)
SB ($39.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q

, K

.
UTG calls $1, Hero calls $1, CO calls $1, [color=#666666]1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) Q

, 9

, K

[color=#0000FF](5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, [color=#CC3333]UTG bets $2, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $6, CO calls $6, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $4.

Turn: ($23) A

[color=#0000FF](3 players)
UTG checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $15, [color=#CC3333]CO raises to $50.85, UTG folds, Hero ???

 5
I figure that the bettor on river has nothing at all, and I assume the raiser has a 9. Do you think he has trip 9s or a fullboat, should i flat call or raise here, or have played the hand differently?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($21.95)
MP ($130.50)
CO ($95)
Button ($97.40)
SB ($83.25)
Hero ($184.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8

, 6

.
[color=#CC3333]UTG raises to $2, [color=#666666]1 fold, CO calls $2, [color=#666666]2 folds, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($6.50) 9

, 9

, 7

[color=#0000FF](3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($6.50) A

[color=#0000FF](3 players)
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]UTG bets $3, CO calls $3, Hero calls $3.

River: ($15.50) T

[color=#0000FF](3 players)
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]UTG bets $3, [color=#CC3333]CO raises to $9, Hero ???

LetsHugItOut · #2 11-08-2006, 04:24 PM

Hand 1: Raise more PF. Pot flop.

Hand 2: Raise more PF. Pot flop.

Hand 3: Don't bet $1. Check with the plan to stack-a-donk or lead. With the unraised pot PF, stack-a-donk looks good (especially given your read). CR turn.

Hand 4: Preflop... meh. Raise the pot on flop ($11). If CO still pushes turn, you're now priced in and ought to call.

Hand 5: I'd repop. Give it a good raise.

winky51 · #3 11-08-2006, 05:47 PM

#1 -----

PF raise is too small you are giving odds for 2 to call and you are out of position. I would feel better if I only had one caller. I think $11 would be a better raise PF.
FLOP: you bet to small $8 into a $19.50 pot? You are giving some nice odds for draws here bet MORE like 3/4 the pot.
TURN: Since you bet small on the flop you have no idea where you are at now. He could have 65, 96, 87, 66, 55, 33, 99. What hands would he raise here now that you made a big bet? Probably ones that you are beat? I think more hands that not you are losing.

#2 PF raise is fine, its enough to get the original raiser to call but the limper, sandwiched, to fold. You could raise more though.
FLOP: bet is too small giving odds for draw. You need to bet 3/4 to the pot here vs 2.
TURN: Bet is again too small and because you bet small on the flop you have no idea what he has.
RIVER: check behind. That card fills a lot of hands on the river if he already didnt have something else.

This guy limped in MP then called $9 cold out of position vs 2 players. He most likely is a donkey and has you beat on the river. I have seen quite a few check raise the river for that fancy play.

#3 preflop fine.
FLOP: don't slow play this. You have the bottom full house. The board has the worst hand in poker. Bet $3 not $1. Either they have a 7 or they don't. Most players would think "why wouldnt he check this its a dry board" and most players with a 7 will think "this is a dry board I will slowplay". So BET 3/4 the pot, at least 50%.
TURN someone calls, BET at least 1/2 the pot he has something, hopefull he has a 7 and will raise you.
RIVER: Ok now look at your situation. He raised you wow fantastic but now you shoved for 2.5x the pot. He might fold if he has a crappy 7 or call with a boat. You should have gotten the money in earlier. That way this river has a BIG pot and he would be getting odds to call with trip 7s.

#4 preflop: raise that hand. Its 6 handed poker and some donkey limped preflop ahead of you. Do you want the other 4 to come in with position?
FLOP: RAISE the pot $11 not $6. You are giving odds for a 2x draw here.
TURN: Here everything depends on the reads you have on the players. CO is all in here and you are getting 2.5:1 odds to call here. I think you are beat but he could also have AdJd, AdTd, unlikely (K9), I think a set he would have raised the flop with the double draw or JT. You also might draw out on him for the boat 10%. This really depends on what kind of player he is. Would he call the flop rise with A9? Would he limp behind PF with AQ or AK? This will change his hand range. Considering him to be average I would probably call since you don't have to face a river bet since he is all in. BUT you have to bet more early to define your hand. You are giving way to many odds to players.

#5 preflop: Unless the CO is capable of paying off here if you hit why play it. UTG does not have enough $$$ to justify calling.
FLOP: If I knew those 2 were capable of folding here I would probably bet representing the 9. 1st off you might get AK/AQ to fold. 2nd you have pot control and are not relying on UTG to make a big bet and shove you off your draw making CO fold and not giving you odds.
TURN: Now you gotta check and the other 2 bet and called. So probably you are facing AK, AQ, AJ and some drawing hand. the CO with trips there would have raised with 2 draws available. He could also have an ace.
RIVER: Ok now you made your sucker end of the straight and got raised. UTG most likely doesnt have AA. So I think calling here is ok. You dont want to raise because you have the bottom end of the straight and there is a chance either of the two other players does have a boat. The fact that CO raised the river is scary. Jc8c, 77, AK, AQ, AT are all possible considering how the hand was played. BUT would he really raise the last 3 hands? UTG did bet the turn when the ace popped up.

Sleek · #4 11-08-2006, 06:13 PM

Very nice post winky. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

allaboutheu · #5 11-09-2006, 01:22 AM

Thank you guys for your posts. I actually lost a lot that session but after reading these posts fixed the leaks that were pointed out (basically not being agressive enough) and went back and won it all back and then a little. Thanks and all of the advice was spot on.

winky51 · #6 11-09-2006, 11:58 AM

Thanks. Nice to get a compliment.

morphball · #7 11-09-2006, 12:14 PM

Hands 1 & 2: Raise more preflop, bet the pot or close to the pot on the flop, betting 1/2 the pot is weaksauce and is just begging to be floated.

Hand 3: How can you put him on a 7 with a $1 bet. Btw, someone having a 7 is your wet dream. Bet the pot, 3-bet a raise and get it all in as soon as possible, and on the flop if you can. You don't want to be giving 7x free cards because his x's are all better than 2.

Hand 4: Raise preflop. Flop, raise to the pot on flop. I bet the turn too, but I fold to the action as well.

Hand 5: Raise the flop. Your BB and you got in for a $1, your opponents cannot take a nine out of your range, and your draw is decent. As played, I would only call the river.

In general, these five hands were played too passively, and you allowed your opponents to see too many cards for very good prices.

SilverLining1 · #8 11-09-2006, 12:31 PM

I'm not going to review all of these. I'm going to say that you need to read up on some basic poker literature dealing with bet sizing.