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Old 11-09-2006, 11:49 AM
Gorilla Boy Gorilla Boy is offline
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Default QQ overpair facing shove on flop

This actually happend on NL25 (6max) on party last night

I was on the button, everyone had fairly full stacks of at least $20 but I had everyone covered with about $35.

Villain (CO) has been quiet all night and only been going in with broadway stuff.

Preflop i'm dealt Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG limps, MP folds, CO limps, I make it $1.5 to go, sb folds, bb folds, UTG folds, CO calls.

pot $3.85

Flop is 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

CO bets $2.5, I raise to $7.5, CO shoves to $19.

Hero?

Any ideas would be welcome, thanks in advance [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair facing shove on flop

Seems like an easy fold to me. There aren't really draws out there. Unless I think that he makes this with an overpair I fold. This is a set like every time.
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Old 11-09-2006, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: QQ overpair facing shove on flop

Fold. You're only beating a weirdly played JJ-TT and loosing to a set or AA-KK.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: QQ overpair facing shove on flop

easy fold on a drawless board
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: QQ overpair facing shove on flop

fold
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: QQ overpair facing shove on flop

Yeah, this looks like a fold to me too. If he was quiet all night, limped in with a small PP, makes a set on the flop and sees that you're raising him. As villain with a PP I would always push here.
The board is completely drawless either and I wouldn't expect him suddenly bluffing
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: QQ overpair facing shove on flop

I have a question.

So the villain is likely to have a set here. But why on earth would he put all the money in the pot on flop and give us a chance to get away from our overpair if he has a set and is such strong favorite?


By raising dry flop he is just screaming I have a set here:/ but does it mean that thats what he has?
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: QQ overpair facing shove on flop

[ QUOTE ]
I have a question.

So the villain is likely to have a set here. But why on earth would he put all the money in the pot on flop and give us a chance to get away from our overpair if he has a set and is such strong favorite?


By raising dry flop he is just screaming I have a set here:/ but does it mean that thats what he has?

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Its called DONKPUSH and you should use it cause youll get paid off more times then not. This is an easy fold, you are beat by set or AA,KK. click fold option, Curse at the screen and move on.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: QQ overpair facing shove on flop

Most of time, yes.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:43 PM
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Default Re: QQ overpair facing shove on flop

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I have a question.

So the villain is likely to have a set here. But why on earth would he put all the money in the pot on flop and give us a chance to get away from our overpair if he has a set and is such strong favorite?


By raising dry flop he is just screaming I have a set here:/ but does it mean that thats what he has?

[/ QUOTE ]
Its called DONKPUSH and you should use it cause youll get paid off more times then not. This is an easy fold, you are beat by set or AA,KK. click fold option, Curse at the screen and move on.

[/ QUOTE ]

So this DONKPUSH thing is vs donsk right? So if our villain has a read that a hero is not really a donk,why give him a chance to lay down?
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