How did I do on this strange, strange hand?

[wiseheart]

As usual, Ill go against the grain here.
Assuming this is the usual lagtarded stars game...

Let think about this...your opponents most likely
have one or two of the following:
1) a2xx
2) 45xx
3) trips

The least probable is that your opponents all
have a2, in this worst case if your low holds
then you get 1/8. Ive had 200k+ hands at o8
and never had this happen. So, worst case scenario
I see see is your getting 1/6 in a 5 player pot.
But, if the lagtards hold true, your opponents could
be donking it up with 45 or a4 with flush draw or
AA4 or trips, trying to get people to fold. Thus,
Im not folding this unless I get counterfeited or
a few people drop out. Neither of this happened, so
your most likely gaining $$. Id only bet the river
against the worst opponents, even as bad as some of
the 30/60 players are, I wouldn't bet this river.

[bugstud]

I think the gutter means you gotta stick around on the flop.

[PartyGirlUK]

but gutter is 3 outs, sometimes 4 lets call it 3.5, but wait, it could very easily get counterfeited, someone else could have it etc. so its more like 2, 2.5 outs? And it is for half the pot, so it is more like a 1 outer, so it doesnt make that big a difference. I really think this is a fold.

As it is I got super lucky as I was only guy with nut low. River check raiser amazingly had just a 54, i think he scooped the hi, one of the other guys had a set certainly. Amazing stuff.

[wiseheart]

amazing how i end up being right on these
in knowing the hands, but everyone usually
thinks my opinions are [censored].

[KajunKenny]

I would of bet the river here also. Donks tend to bet the low very agresively. Nice split [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[poloplayer909]

I like folding the flop here myself. You're definitely playing for a quarter of the pot here, and there's 6 cards in the deck that are going to make your hand worthless. To be honest I would actually probably fold preflop. This hand just seems to be quarted too much, and it will rarely win the high. In Bill Boston's book, his charts list the hand to have a value of $2 at a $5/$10 game. If the ace were suited however, your hand value would increase by 5 times to $10.

[T50_Omaha8]

[ QUOTE ]
You're definitely playing for a quarter of the pot here, and there's 6 cards in the deck that are going to make your hand worthless.

[/ QUOTE ] Pessimism.

If he's playing for a quarter of the pot, there are only 4 cards that counterfeit him. If he's playing for a sixth, there are 2, and if he's playing for an eighth, there are zero. So if he is playing for 1/6, suddenly the chances he gets counterfeit plummet, not to mention that paying 25% of the value of a pot and only getting back 17% is a rather petty loss. (Let's say the pot becomes 20BB and hero gets sixthed--hero will lose 1.5BB net, including preflop.) Getting eighthed would be worse, but he'd still only lose 2.5BB.

Let's say he's playing for a quarter. Then he's got 4 cards that give him nothing (at which point he'll simply fold), but he also has 3 that will give him 3/4 of the pot (after being able to bet and raise extremely aggressively, making the pot much larger). He has great implied odds for his gutter, and thus I think he needs to stay in the hand. The sliver of a chance that he wins a monster outweighs the times he gets sixthed, and getting counterfeit will generally mean he was among fewer nut lows than we thought, and his made low actually WAS quite valuable on the flop (of course the point will be moot when he folds).