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11-07-2006, 03:33 PM
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Top pair top kicker and I didn\'t reraise. Is this a fold on the river?
Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $1/$2 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $7</font>, 2 folds, BB calls. Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($15, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $12</font>, Hero calls. Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($39, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $24</font>, Hero calls. River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($87, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $92</font>, Hero calls. Results: Final pot: $271 
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#2
11-07-2006, 04:13 PM
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Re: Top pair top kicker and I didn\'t reraise. Is this a fold on the ri
Usually someone with TP on that flop will not lead into the PFR, they will c/c. It usually is an underpair looking to see where they are at I believe. JJ is a possibility to what you are behind here, but I think it is possible for them to hold AA,KK,QQ,JJ,AQ,KQ,QJ,TT,77,44,air.
Big bet there on the river, looks like they do not want a call or are smart enough to know this and would appreciate you looking them up. With the line you took, you encouraged bluffs so it seems that you have to call this river.
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#4
11-07-2006, 05:05 PM
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Re: Top pair top kicker and I didn\'t reraise. Is this a fold on the ri
I think you could have avoided the situation by raising the flop and then checking the turn. by checking the turn, you can induce a bluff from QT, KQ, and it keeps the pot smaller, but from the way you played the hand, I think there is a good chance you have the best of it.
what did he end up with?
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#6
11-07-2006, 05:24 PM
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Re: Top pair top kicker and I didn\'t reraise. Is this a fold on the ri
Without any reads, there is no way you can win that pot on river. At most you chop it. BB has at least 2 pairs+, which QQ77 or QQJJ. You only hope to see he has KQ or 56, but without reads you cannot even estimate the probability of those.
Clear fold on river. The way you played is what we generally called "Calling Station."
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#7
11-07-2006, 05:50 PM
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Re: Top pair top kicker and I didn\'t reraise. Is this a fold on the ri
this is totally fine IMO.
you will often see a weaker Q. there isn't really a raise anywhere. river might be a fold, but depends on opponent.
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#8
11-07-2006, 05:52 PM
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Re: Top pair top kicker and I didn\'t reraise. Is this a fold on the ri
[ QUOTE ]
I think you could have avoided the situation by raising the flop and then checking the turn. by checking the turn, you can induce a bluff from QT, KQ, and it keeps the pot smaller, but from the way you played the hand, I think there is a good chance you have the best of it. what did he end up with? [/ QUOTE ] Raising the flop and checking the turn doesn't make the pot any smaller than just calling the flop and the turn.
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#9
11-07-2006, 05:55 PM
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Re: Top pair top kicker and I didn\'t reraise. Is this a fold on the ri
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The way you played is what we generally called "Calling Station." [/ QUOTE ] Owned.
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#10
11-07-2006, 06:02 PM
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Re: Top pair top kicker and I didn\'t reraise. Is this a fold on the ri
this is a spot where he either has you beat (most likely a set, possibly QJ), or he is on a bluff. i don't know how we're supposed to tell you which one it is, that depends on the villain's frequencies. if i absolutely had to guess, i think you can profitably call the river bet.
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