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Old 11-07-2006, 03:29 PM
crazyJohn crazyJohn is offline
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Default Nut straight on a monotone board 5 handed.

Was a bit lost with the situation i got myself into here. Don't really play AJ too much but i think i should have made a decent raise here to 10/12 given the limpers before me.

Given the flop whats my best action here with the nut straight and the 2nd nfd?

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $108.10
UTG+1: $196
MP1: $111.45
MP2: $202
CO: $181.15
crazyJohn: $204.30
SB: $453.40
BB: $216.45

Pre-flop: (8 players) crazyJohn is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, crazyJohn calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($12, 6 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $8</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls, CO folds, crazyJohn??
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Nut straight on a monotone board 5 handed.

Easy call. You have a strong redraw and likely the nuts right now. If you see another heart, fold, obviously. (Unless its the ace.)
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Nut straight on a monotone board 5 handed.

uh, raise? we sort of have a good hand here...and lots of cards kill our action or ruin our hand
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Nut straight on a monotone board 5 handed.

I'd make a pot-sized raise. You have two outs to the stone-cold nuts. If he pushes, I go with reads. If he calls, I probably c/c to river.
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: Nut straight on a monotone board 5 handed.

c'mon kids, simple raise, simple call of a push. look @ our hand...we have the nut straight, redraw to nuts, redraw to second nuts. there is much more than just Ax hearts in these ranges here
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: Nut straight on a monotone board 5 handed.

make it 45 to go, call push.

if called on flop push any non heart turn.
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Old 11-07-2006, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: Nut straight on a monotone board 5 handed.

Ok, so i just called with the intention of raising a blank turn. The turn was a T killing my action. Sorry for the lack of reads but the SB seemed like a donkey, and MP1 seemed fairly weak-tight.

Is this a bad line to take?

MP1 took the pot with KT. I think the SB showed A8 with no hearts.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: Nut straight on a monotone board 5 handed.

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yes. you should be raising here for 2 reasons. first of all you have a monster hand and you want to play a big pot, so pump it up. second you need to protect your hand from a bigger heart, sets, and to a lesser extent 2 pairs. charge those hands to see the next card, and dont give a chance to fold easily if a scare card comes off on the turn.
waiting for a safe turn to build a pot, when you have a huge edge on the flop, is a big leak and a very weak play.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: Nut straight on a monotone board 5 handed.

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make it 45 to go, call push.

if called on flop push any non heart turn.

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You dont think this is a bit strong?
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Nut straight on a monotone board 5 handed.

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make it 45 to go, call push.

if called on flop push any non heart turn.

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You dont think this is a bit strong?

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the raise size or the entire line? are you worried about losing someone or about overplaying the hand vs a better made hand?
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