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Guruman · #1 11-04-2006, 04:38 PM

3/6 game with a 1/3 blind structure.

a good player in the bb, and a not horrible but still bad weak /tight player limps on the button.

youre in the small blind with AXo.

are there any kickers you're not threebetting [and therefore folding]?

Leader · #2 11-04-2006, 05:00 PM

BT limps or raises?

Bill Maher · #3 11-04-2006, 05:07 PM

If button raised, I probably 3-bet A8s+, ATo+. If button limped, I raise A5s+, A7o+, probably. Not totally sure.

DING-DONG YO · #4 11-04-2006, 05:40 PM

I'll open raise A7s+/A9o+

I'll 3 bet A8s/ATo+

Everything else I dump.

Guruman · #5 11-04-2006, 05:58 PM

button limped guys. That was pretty clear I thought.

Leader · #6 11-04-2006, 06:09 PM

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button limped guys. That was pretty clear I thought.

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We can't 3-bet though it he limps.

I don't see this as a raise/fold spot. I raise A7s+ A8o+ and limp A2s+ and A5o+

Scary_Tiger · #7 11-04-2006, 06:11 PM

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button limped guys. That was pretty clear I thought.

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We can't 3-bet though it he limps.

I don't see this as a raise/fold spot. I raise A7s+ A8o+ and limp A2s+ and A5o+

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Mossberg · #8 11-04-2006, 07:01 PM

Good thread, I've been wondering what is considered "standard" here.

Scary and Leader, are you ever limping A2o-A5o if there are 2 or 3 limpers?

Guruman · #9 11-04-2006, 07:20 PM

ooop, sorry. My brain defaulted to threebetting from the sb. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

yes, it would just be an initial raise.

I asked because I found myself pitching A5o in that spot today, mainly because it was probably a fav vs one but not two, and I didnt want to be faced with the prospect of unloading a barrel on the flop UI vs two.

Leader and Scary, what's your plan with the limping hands? You're not getting immediate odds to catch an ace, you'll have problems getting paid if you do, and you're putting yourself in a position to spew all kinds of bets postflop if the board comes down low and paired or mono or some other bluff-happy way.

I don't know how to play this type of hand from out of position postflop if I don't have initiative and as few opponents as possible.

Leader · #10 11-04-2006, 07:31 PM

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Good thread, I've been wondering what is considered "standard" here.

Scary and Leader, are you ever limping A2o-A5o if there are 2 or 3 limpers?

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Probably not in the 1:3 structure unless it's 3 bad limpers. In the 1:2 structure it's fine after a 3 limpers. Maybe 2 if there's bad.