100NL 6m Flop OESD in multiway rr pot

[nogenius]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($202.85)
Button ($165.25)
Hero ($99)
BB ($311.05)
UTG ($97.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, BB calls $13, UTG calls $10.

Flop: ($42) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero ???

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BB is a loose fish, while UTG is an unknown.

What's your play here?

[carnivalhobo]

bet out, and shove over a raise (or realistically call a push). Id bet 35.

[xwillience]

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bet out, and shove over a raise (or realistically call a push). Id bet 35.

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why are we 3 betting AQo OOP here? did i miss that memo?

from the flop on... i think you have to bet here.

[carnivalhobo]

preflop seems standard to me

[xwillience]

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preflop seems standard to me

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really? 3 betting an UTG raise OOP.. seems like we are likely dominated or behind to a PP. i like calling and evaluating the flop better, i think...

[micth]

yeah i woulda just called preflop with the crappy position and all
but betting out seems fine from then on, keeps the lead

[DanJ.]

Preflop is ok, i 3bet utg raises from the blinds against unknowns occasionally. b/3bAI on frop.

[nogenius]

What's the reasoning behind the b/3b line?

[bilbo-san]

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bet out, and shove over a raise (or realistically call a push). Id bet 35.

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why are we 3 betting AQo OOP here? did i miss that memo?

from the flop on... i think you have to bet here.

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I made a recent post about how I thought this was absurd, too, and was berated by all the forum LAGs that 3-betting AQo here is apparently standard.

I'm with you, though. I can even fold this. It's different if CO opens, or even if there are a couple limpers and button raises.

[bilbo-san]

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preflop seems standard to me

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Only to the FTP regulars.

Personally, I'd rather 3-bet with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] than with this. It just about always sucks when you are called by UTG. Sure, you get AK to fold on the flop sometimes, but usually UTG has a pair that he isn't folding to a c-bet when you are called.

I think that AQ is one of those hands that the light 3-bettors always get themselves into big trouble with from the blinds.