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Old 10-31-2006, 05:23 PM
Leptyne Leptyne is offline
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Default Re: 5/10 Blind steal situation

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KK, maybe QQ prolly muck AK.

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This was my vote, although I couldn't come up with this elequent phrasing. I prolly c/r a/i on an aceless flop.
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Old 10-31-2006, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Blind steal situation

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kk ak

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off the top of my head, i agree with this. i'd also make it about $200 straight with my re-reraise...maybe more.
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Old 10-31-2006, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Blind steal situation

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KK is definitely a fold.

If you have KK then there are only 2 kings left,

So that leaves 6 combos of AA, 8 combos of AK, 6 combos of QQ, 6 combos of JJ etc

SB's calling range here has to be at least QQ+, surely nobody here calls with AK. So at absolute best that makes him 50% QQ, 50% AA.

But Button pushed, over two blind raises without history so his range is probably at least QQ+, AK. If SB has QQ then button's range is basically 50% AA, 50% AK, if SB has AA then button's range is like 60% QQ, 40% AK.

In the SB = QQ range you have c35% equity, in the SB = AA range you have 14% equity.

Getting 2:1 you'd need to have 33% EV, so its a clear fold with KK.

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So you'd only call with AA here?

I looked at your numbers, and I think you may be giving the SB too tight a calling range. Remember the SB only started the hand w/ ~$580, so I'm thinking he may just get it all in with something like AK or maybe even pair like JJ/TT.
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Old 10-31-2006, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 Blind steal situation

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KK is definitely a fold.

If you have KK then there are only 2 kings left,

So that leaves 6 combos of AA, 8 combos of AK, 6 combos of QQ, 6 combos of JJ etc

SB's calling range here has to be at least QQ+, surely nobody here calls with AK. So at absolute best that makes him 50% QQ, 50% AA.

But Button pushed, over two blind raises without history so his range is probably at least QQ+, AK. If SB has QQ then button's range is basically 50% AA, 50% AK, if SB has AA then button's range is like 60% QQ, 40% AK.

In the SB = QQ range you have c35% equity, in the SB = AA range you have 14% equity.

Getting 2:1 you'd need to have 33% EV, so its a clear fold with KK.

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So you'd only call with AA here?

I looked at your numbers, and I think you may be giving the SB too tight a calling range. Remember the SB only started the hand w/ ~$580, so I'm thinking he may just get it all in with something like AK or maybe even pair like JJ/TT.

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ah, my bad. Didnt see the sb was short. KK+ looks safe now then.
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