Guy is 11/5/3 - I have AA OMG - Page 3

shpanko · #21 10-31-2006, 03:11 PM

Results?

True · #22 10-31-2006, 03:12 PM

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People play nuts in RR'd pots, and I've seen people in similar situations peel with AQ ... whether your villian is capable i'm not sure.

How would you play JJ in the same situation (i.e. if u were dealt JJ instead of AA)

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If I had JJ I would probably check the flop and then fold the turn.

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74o_Clownsuit · #23 10-31-2006, 03:12 PM

Then I definitely fold. I can find a much better way to spend my money than calling this river.

OMGTILTING · #24 10-31-2006, 03:13 PM

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I think I'd find a fold here, then throw my mouse.

EDIT: BTW how many hands did you have on the guy?

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I have about a million hands on him, but hardly any reads since hes too tight.

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If he is that tight postflop too that you dont have any reads even with alot of hands it swings more towards a fold i think.

True · #25 10-31-2006, 03:13 PM

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Results?

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Results are that I called and he had QQ.

I thought he could put me on a weak hand and that river bet also looked like a kind of bluff. I thought I had under repped my hand and that he could even be betting for value with AK which is obviously bad.

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Spy Dog · #26 10-31-2006, 03:14 PM

Versus an 11/5/3 nit I like a big reraise preflop, like to 35-40ish. He's waiting a long time to get a hand that he can raise and won't like the prospect of folding it preflop. Since his preflop raising standards are very tight, his preflop calling a 3-bet standards are probably pretty loose (if that make sense). Therefore, a bigger raise makes sense. It also makes it look like you are 'making a play'.

As far as postflop, I would play this hand as if he had AK until he told me otherwise. Therefore, I would bet the flop/turn/river if he was just calling his chips away.

As played, I would probably minraise the turn. He's not likely to bluff the river if you just call the turn and he will be drooling at the prospect of 3-betting the turn if he has a set. He's never 3-betting AK here so the minraise should allow you to value bet the river if he just calls.

River is meh. Folding or calling are viable, although I would lean towards a fold.

bilbo-san · #27 10-31-2006, 03:15 PM

I call here because most players suck at playing RR pots, and in particular I find that the tighties do really stupid [censored] post-flop in RR pots. I think this is AK often enough to call.

I find it lol that you think he won't call with AK on this flop -- he'll felt AK. Guys this tight never play correctly vs. good SLAGs and LAGs. That said, I think checking for pot control/bluff inducing, etc. is fine.

74o_Clownsuit · #28 10-31-2006, 03:17 PM

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Results?

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Results are that I called and he had QQ.

I thought he could put me on a weak hand and that river bet also looked like a kind of bluff. I thought I had under repped my hand and that he could even be betting for value with AK which is obviously bad.

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Yea I think this is the king of the guy who would check the river, not bluff, if he wasn't sure about his hand being the best. He wouldn't be thinking "oh crap he has a better hand, I better bluff $80 into this pot". It would be more like "damnit he may have a better hand, I'll just check and hopefully he checks behind..."

True · #29 10-31-2006, 03:18 PM

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River is meh. Folding or calling are viable, although I would lean towards a fold.

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His turn bet made me really think I had the best hand, but for the same reason as I checked the flop, I just called the turn.

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ColdSteel · #30 10-31-2006, 03:22 PM

Not betting the flop is foolish. He either has hit the flop (usually true) in which case you'll be able to get all the money in right now while ahead, or he has missed the flop in which case you'd do better by ending the hand now than letting him pull ahead & trying to get bluff money. Remember also, he's expecting you to bet.