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Old 10-30-2006, 09:11 AM
TomC TomC is offline
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Default I\'ve got an overpair - but with 55??

Hi,

So the following hand came up last night and I felt a little lost.. Pretty sure I made the right move (moves?) although I would welcome comments about the flop play - I think a fold may be in order since there's one player behind me but I'm not too sure.

Don't have the exact hand cos I'm at work but here goes:

9 handed NL $0.5/$1

Here is MP - dealt: [5, 5]

One limp, Hero limp, CO limps, SB raises to $5, one fold, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: 2 ,3, 3 (two clubs)

Pot ~ $19

SB bets $10, Hero calls, CO calls

Turn: 2 (still two clubs)

Pot ~ $49

SB bets $20, Hero folds, CO folds.


Thoughts?

SB has $100 ish, CO has $90 ish and I cover both.

Both SB and CO are fairly tight and seem to be competent players. SB doesn't seem too tricky (been playing 30 mins or so and I haven't seen any bluffs or moves shown down). CO is also quite tight but is a bit tricky and has re-raised light a few times (especially in position) but generally seems competent.

Once the second 2 hits I'm a little lost as I feel SB may well be betting an A here but with CO in the pot I think it's hard for me to call.

All feedback welcome!

T
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:25 AM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default Re: I\'ve got an overpair - but with 55??

Pre-flop is standard.

I would just give it up on the flop. Your hand is very weak here.
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: I\'ve got an overpair - but with 55??

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Pre-flop is standard.

I would just give it up on the flop. Your hand is very weak here.

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I thought that might have been the right move after I called... What about if it was just me and the SB. Is a re-raise in order here? Given he's most likely got Ak or some such?

T
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: I\'ve got an overpair - but with 55??

If it were heads-up I'd generally call once and then see what he does on the turn.

But when a guy raises into a big field and then bets the flop he usually has what he's representing (a big pair) unless he is totally stupid.
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: I\'ve got an overpair - but with 55??

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If it were heads-up I'd generally call once and then see what he does on the turn.

But when a guy raises into a big field and then bets the flop he usually has what he's representing (a big pair) unless he is totally stupid.

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Really?? The flop bet could easily be a c-bet (especially since it's for about half the pot).

Do you not think that a good amount of the time we're up against AK?
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:54 AM
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Default Re: I\'ve got an overpair - but with 55??

Hmm, I mis-read the hand.

The flop is only 3-handed, I thought there were more players for some reason. This is why using a converter makes thing easier to see.

Being 3-handed makes calling a lot closer. I still lean towards folding, as your pair is really low, and you aren't closing the action.
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: I\'ve got an overpair - but with 55??

Anyone else got any thoughts on this?

Would appreciate all feedback as I'm still not sure what the right line is here.

I'm leaning towards a fold on the flop since there's one player left to act but a call/raise if it's heads up?

Thanks
T

PS - sorry haven't had a chance to format it properly yet
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Old 10-31-2006, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: I\'ve got an overpair - but with 55??

I don't like calling the flop here. Most likely an overcard will hit the turn and you don't know what to do. So in my opinion you have two possibilities:

A) You intended playing 55 for set-value. So: fold on the flop!
B) You want the pot: Raise to 60$ to protect and announce your holding, collect information and drive CO out of the hand. If I get called I'd be almost done with the hand but very often you're able to check down the turn and river if he has high cards or a weak pair.

As you were giving him credit for being a good player I think I would stick to plan A and fight another day.
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