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Old 10-31-2006, 07:48 AM
The White Rabbit The White Rabbit is offline
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Default Re: 200nl, set vs a nit, how do i get his stack?

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erm why? 19 to win 200...

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which is not enough in this case.

I almost always call because I'm not playing for set value, but if villain is super nitty and he has AA/KK here >90% of the time, preflop is a clear fold. Your odds aren't good enough because you won't always get his stack in when you hit your set (i.e. he has KK and flop is A8x) and somewhat less often you'll flop set over set or he hits his 2 outer.
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Old 10-31-2006, 08:19 AM
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Default Re: 200nl, set vs a nit, how do i get his stack?

I think the best move is to lead out the flop, since he will have to reraise you with any overpair and therefor have a lot more invested when you push back. This is making it harder for him to fold and you will get a call more often.
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Old 10-31-2006, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: 200nl, set vs a nit, how do i get his stack?

if ur going to call a heavy amount preflop, u better lead on the flop so u don't tip off ur hand...
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: 200nl, set vs a nit, how do i get his stack?

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fold preflop

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erm why? 19 to win 200...

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b/c thats not good enough odds
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Old 10-31-2006, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: 200nl, set vs a nit, how do i get his stack?

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fold preflop

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erm why? 19 to win 200...

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b/c thats not good enough odds

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in your opinion... also its like 19 to win about 240 or so. 13:1 vs nit = instacall.

You only need to stack him one out of two times you hit a set for it to be profitable. Those of you that think this isn't likely definitely aren't playing correctly.

Also the guy that said "I am not playing for set value" vs a 6% pfr's re-raise really needs to put work into ranges. This guy has like QQ-AA so unless you are trying to bluff this nit or something then I don't understand what the theory or reason behind this is.

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Old 10-31-2006, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: 200nl, set vs a nit, how do i get his stack?

bet the flop, he will raise, CRAI on turn, take a long time to call flop hehe
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Old 10-31-2006, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: 200nl, set vs a nit, how do i get his stack?

All in time
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Old 10-31-2006, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: 200nl, set vs a nit, how do i get his stack?

Go all in he will put you on a draw
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Old 10-31-2006, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: 200nl, set vs a nit, how do i get his stack?

ROFL at people suggesting waiting a card to shove.

That's the only POSSIBLE bad line. He isn't folding to any flop shove ever. You could open push and he'll call. I think CR allin looks most like a draw, but I also think he's never folding unless you retardedly wait a street and kill the action off 1/2 the deck.
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Old 10-31-2006, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: 200nl, set vs a nit, how do i get his stack?

I agree with trying to get it all in on the flop. Waiting for the turn after 1 raise happens makes sense on a fairly dry board, but here I think you want to eaither bet-3 bet all in or cr ai.. with the stack sizes, I think cr-ai is fine.
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