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Old 10-30-2006, 07:04 PM
zatacka zatacka is offline
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Default 200NL unraised pot vs tap

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Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $444.28
UTG+1: $247.45
CO: $409.88
Button: $16.07
Hero: $345.90
BB: $206.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($8, 4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $7.6</font>, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($23.2, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $17</font>, CO calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($57.2, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $30</font>

is check/fold river better? what do you think about the turn lead? how would you plat it?
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: 200NL unraised pot vs tap

Do I suck for wanting to fold the flop when the ultra-passive guy bets strong into a 4-way pot? He's got at least an ace here, we're ahead/behind to about the same number of aces, and I think a few of the smaller ones aren't calling pf and leading the flop.
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: 200NL unraised pot vs tap

this won't give you much insight into the hand, but i fold pf
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: 200NL unraised pot vs tap

As played, If you feel that you're hand is good enough to call 7.60 on the flop then why don't you be the agressor and lead out for 7.60 and fold to a raise? Is you're hand good enough to donk around like that?

Lead flop, Lead turn, check call river. Fold anywhere to a substantial raise.
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:17 PM
RunyonAve RunyonAve is offline
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Default Re: 200NL unraised pot vs tap

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this won't give you much insight into the hand, but i fold pf

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I agree with this because you're not going to win a big pot but you'll loose a big pot.
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:19 PM
Megenoita Megenoita is offline
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Default Re: 200NL unraised pot vs tap

Fold pf. Esp. with an UTG limper. Playing unsuited asces OOP will hurt you in this game.

Lead the flop-be the aggressor. You gain information when raised, and you can fold and save money. If called, you can bet the turn, check/call the river as advised. The problem with check/calling and leading the turn is that you gain no information from tighty. You know he has at least an ace, but a better ace? Better than a pair of aces? You have no idea where you're at.
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: 200NL unraised pot vs tap

you played this hand so strangely postflop...there are two ways for going about this hand:

1) bet for value/try to protect your hand
2) try to control potsize

Your hand isn't strong enough to withstand substantial heat, which is why you have to either keep the pot small or figure out where you are on the flop.

You do neither of these - you are betting amounts that can only be called by a better hand and forcing yourself into a tough call if he has a strong hand that he will bet big on the river. You've already put so much into the pot that you'll be committed to call if he does something like minraise on the river.

When he pots it on the flop, he has a hand. Either fold or check/call the rest of the way, keeping the pot small. Betting out on the turn big and getting a call tells you he REALLY has a hand and he isn't folding no matter what you bet on the river. Betting the river for value there has no meaning - you will only be called by a hand better than yours and will not get a better hand - AK, AQ, AJ, two pair, to lay down.
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:29 PM
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Default Re: 200NL unraised pot vs tap

Check turn. Give him credit if he bets bigly.
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: 200NL unraised pot vs tap

Folding preflop isn't so good, but you should either bet $4 or so on the flop or fold to this bet from this guy.
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: 200NL unraised pot vs tap

Call pf. Fold flop.

I'd call this all day from SB to multiway pot, but you can generally trust if someone shows strength on flop multiway that your aces ain't good often enough for this call to be profitable.
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