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Old 10-29-2006, 05:32 PM
Vuron00 Vuron00 is offline
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Default Double checking because I got flamed for the next hour...

2900 runners, 549 paid.. we're down to about 50.

The table had been playing pretty tight and my image was tight because I hadn't had anything in about 3 orbits. The raise may not have been the best, but I thought that I could take it down preflop.

Villain was the loosest player at the table. He was slightly tilting from just losing AK < AJ all-in PF. When he pushed, I put him on Ax or any pair, and was getting 2.75:1. Easy call?

Also, any comments on whether you would fold preflop, open push, or played as-is?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20000 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB (t425740)
BB (t449841)
UTG (t613806)
Hero (t246230)
MP1 (t438834)
MP2 (t483536)
CO (t253154)
Button (t183460)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60000</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t448841</font>, Hero calls t185230 (All-In).
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Old 10-29-2006, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: Double checking because I got flamed for the next hour...

Looks ok to me. Why did you raise KQo UTG+1 though?
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Old 10-29-2006, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: Double checking because I got flamed for the next hour...

fold pf

not even betgo is going to tell you to LRR, or min-raise/call/push flop or whatever here
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Old 10-29-2006, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Double checking because I got flamed for the next hour...

i would go all in pre flop
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Old 10-29-2006, 06:50 PM
Vuron00 Vuron00 is offline
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Default Re: Double checking because I got flamed for the next hour...

A couple factors made my decision to play the KQo UTG+1...

1) My image was super tight and probably pretty weak. I hadn't been in a hand in probably 3 orbits and hadn't defended my blinds in that time, either.

2) The table had turned pretty tight recently. Most preflop raises were taking down the pot pf.

3) I forgot to mention antes in my OP.. The antes at this point were 1K, so there was already 39k in the pot and I was about to eat the blinds for another 30k. The tourney chipleader had just passed 1MM at this point and I needed to start accumulating chips to make the FT. I was willing to start taking risks because of the flat payout structure.

20% payout tourneys suck.

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Old 10-29-2006, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Double checking because I got flamed for the next hour...

reasons 1, 2, and the second half of 3 are totally worthless

the antes make it close, but it's probably still a fold
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: Double checking because I got flamed for the next hour...

can't believe people are telling you told fold KQ preflop in EP. I raise it MOSt of the time.

-Scott
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:18 PM
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can't believe people are telling you told fold KQ preflop in EP. I raise it MOSt of the time.

-Scott

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he has 12xbb. this is possibly relevant.
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: Double checking because I got flamed for the next hour...

meh. push/fold preflop.
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: Double checking because I got flamed for the next hour...

Definetly push/fold situation, you cant really standard raise then fold, so its best to just shove. Standard raising here is bad. I lean towards folding, our stack size is such that we can go through the blinds without killing us, Im definitely looking for a good spot in the next orbit or 2.

I just realized you said you were getting 2.75 to 1, your math is off your getting like 1.75 to 1, 60k + your stack size + 18k = ~320k and you have to call ~180k.
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