Thought process with KK hand

HumanACtor · #1 10-28-2006, 08:46 PM

Would like to know if anyone disagrees with my thought process as I went through this hand.

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $180.56
UTG+1: $36.35
Hero: $50.96
Button: $27.07
SB: $73.40
BB: $4.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises to $3.5, Button folds, SB raises to $8, 2 folds, Hero calls.

 I have no reads or PT stats on this opponent. I call rather than raise here because I have position and I feel that by flatcalling this I can maximize my win against QQ/JJ/TT and minimize my loss to AA/AK.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
SB bets $7, Hero calls.

 Great flop I think. Its def WA/WB so I just go ahead and call.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($31, 2 players)
SB bets $6.5, Hero raises all-in $35.96

 Villain most likely does not have AK here, so I felt a push would both get QQ/JJ to pay off, and maximize whatever FE I might have against AA by repping a set or a T.

BTW No Villain did not have AA.

bmk67 · #2 10-28-2006, 09:04 PM

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Villain most likely does not have AK here, so I felt a push would both get QQ/JJ to pay off, and maximize whatever FE I might have against AA by repping a set or a T

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I don't think your logic is consistant here. Are you repping a T here or not? QQ/JJ aren't paying you off if they believe you, and I don't know how much FE you have against AA.

What hand containing a T would villian think you called the RR for 15% of your stack? TT? Personally, I'm not buying that you called with 44 or 55 either.

patchdiaz · #3 10-28-2006, 09:11 PM

I would raise that flop but I like your line a lot.

Best wishes

HumanACtor · #4 10-28-2006, 09:18 PM

Youre right, my logic does completely conflict there.

bmk67 · #5 10-28-2006, 09:36 PM

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Youre right, my logic does completely conflict there.

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I'm not saying I don't like your line, although I would prefer to raise the flop to try and get more money in the pot, but it looks like you got it all in anyways, so meh.

MoreGentilythanU · #6 10-28-2006, 10:01 PM

Just looking at this hand I feel like you made your commitment to this pot too late. I don't really understand why you aren't raising the flop.
Also, 4bet preflop with KK is probably preferable I think, I'm curious what other people think but I always 4 bet here.

MoreGentilythanU · #7 10-28-2006, 10:03 PM

also

"and minimize my loss to AA/AK"

what the heck are u talking about minimizing ur loss to AK.
KK > AK last I checked my friend.

HumanACtor · #8 10-28-2006, 10:27 PM

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also

"and minimize my loss to AA/AK"

what the heck are u talking about minimizing ur loss to AK.
KK > AK last I checked my friend.

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I meant minimizing my loss to AK that flops an ace.

HumanACtor · #9 10-28-2006, 10:28 PM

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Just looking at this hand I feel like you made your commitment to this pot too late. I don't really understand why you aren't raising the flop.

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I thought it was fairly standard to call this flop. What do you accomplish my raising this flop?

Sir Winalot · #10 10-29-2006, 06:32 AM

I guess preflop is fine but I like re-popping this to 22 alot.

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Great flop I think. Its def WA/WA so I just go ahead and raise this to 30.

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That's how I think about the flop.

On the turn, AA isn't going anywhere but you just let a scarecard fall and chased away QQ/JJ.