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Old 10-26-2006, 09:12 AM
heresjohnny heresjohnny is offline
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Default 2/4 Doyles Room PLO Hand - River decision

Effective stack sizes for this hand are 600.

Villain in the hand has been playing quite aggressively, winning lots of pots without showing down many hands.

I have J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the BB.
Villain complets from the SB.

4 players.

Flop is:

T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Villain bets the pot. I decide to call.

Turn(50) J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Villain checks I bet pot. He quickly calls.

River (150) A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villain pots it.

I? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 10-26-2006, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Doyles Room PLO Hand - River decision

gaaah fold flop fold river
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Old 10-26-2006, 09:57 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Doyles Room PLO Hand - River decision

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gaaah fold flop fold river

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Old 10-26-2006, 10:09 AM
RKoontz13 RKoontz13 is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 Doyles Room PLO Hand - River decision

no way....call river, what could he have that beats you? and if he had that, then y didnt he raise pre? if u want to get off cheap, then just go into check call mode...but as far as im concerned, i believe you have the best of it
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Old 10-26-2006, 10:22 AM
heresjohnny heresjohnny is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 Doyles Room PLO Hand - River decision

What hand ranges can we put the villain on here?

What hand would take the line he's taken?
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Old 10-26-2006, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Doyles Room PLO Hand - River decision

If you choose for whatever reason to call the flop, Check the turn! The 66 takes away ALOT of equity from your hand. Betting also turns your hand into a bluff and allows a good aggresive opponent to play perfectly against you. Against an aggressive player inducing a river bluff is more valuable here.

Look how the hand went, he bet the flop, which could mean either air, 2 pair (J10/J2), set of 10's or 2's, some draw with QKA spades maybe? By the river how many of these do you beat? do you beat any?
Can you see why calling the river is alot easier if you hadn't of bet the turn?
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Old 10-27-2006, 04:04 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Doyles Room PLO Hand - River decision

Fold or raise flop. Fold river.
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Old 10-27-2006, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Doyles Room PLO Hand - River decision

Fold river... he has kq... or j10.. what hand could he have that does not beat you?
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Old 10-28-2006, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Doyles Room PLO Hand - River decision

I was the villain in this hand and was betting a missed combo draw. With AhxhQ9. I hated my line, but still thought the other guys call was bad. Thx for the input.
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Doyles Room PLO Hand - River decision

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I was the villain in this hand and was betting a missed combo draw. With AhxhQ9. I hated my line, but still thought the other guys call was bad. Thx for the input.

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As villain, wouldn't your call on the turn OOP be questionable as well, especially when the board pairs? What's paying you off here on the river?

You obviously called with the expectation of being able to collect implied odds (if not already behind), and now you're potting the river as a bluff hoping for a fold. Doesn't add up.

I'm sucky at plo though, I could be wrong. Anyone agree/disagree with me?
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