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Old 10-26-2006, 12:10 AM
Crashem Crashem is offline
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Default NL400$ A5 Rivered Two Pair

Villain is 11/8/2.7 . I played a previous hand before against him where I made a river donk bet and won the pot by him folding, flop and turn were identical actions.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Button ($412)</font>
SB ($690.55)
BB ($354)
UTG ($747.65)
MP ($517.30)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($752)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, Button calls $16, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($38) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, Button calls $24.

Turn: ($86) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $56</font>, Hero calls $56.

River: ($198) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $148</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $308</font>, Hero calls $160.

Final Pot: $814

I donked the River in order to get value from weaker aces and because I had a history of donking the river.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:39 AM
DrPublo DrPublo is offline
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Default Re: NL400$ A5 Rivered Two Pair

What does an 11/8 player have here that you're beating? Can't be AK AQ because an 11/8 player won't float those, right?

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Old 10-26-2006, 12:40 AM
Crashem Crashem is offline
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Default Re: NL400$ A5 Rivered Two Pair

Well the hand before I made the absolutely same move and he folded. I thought he mind consider me out of line and he is very aggressive postflop.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: NL400$ A5 Rivered Two Pair

His line this hand doesn't look so aggressive. Maybe he floated the flop and looked to take it away with 2/3rd PSB on the turn. You lose to AJ, 78, all sets. You beat a bluff, maybe bad two pair (seems very unlikely).

I'm not sure I could find a fold on the river either but I definitely feel iffy about calling.

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Old 10-26-2006, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: NL400$ A5 Rivered Two Pair

I would've folded the turn and probably ck/ca the river, and def. fold to his raise as played.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: NL400$ A5 Rivered Two Pair

If he doesn't have a set, I think he has the nuts with 78s.

- Preflop it's a pretty standard call in position even for a tight player.
- On the flop he has a gutshot and position: pretty good implied odds and/or bluffing opportunities.
- He misses the turn but you check the ace, so he sees that as an opportunity to bluff. You call.
- He hits his gutshot on the river and raises for value.

Might be too loose though seeing his stats.

AJ is also possible but I think he would have raised the flop if he's so aggressive. Either way, you are probably beat but with pot odds and your hand, I would probably call too.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: NL400$ A5 Rivered Two Pair

I was villain in the hand. I don't know if it's your sample size (I have ~600 hands against you) or your stats are just wrong, because I'm nowhere near an 11/8.
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