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Old 10-13-2006, 06:51 PM
PantsOnFire PantsOnFire is offline
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equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 96.5860 % 96.40% 00.19% { AcAd }
Hand 2: 00.6008 % 00.01% 00.59% { 2c2d }
Hand 3: 02.8132 % 02.22% 00.59% { 2h2s }

only way for 2c2d to win is to catch a straight flush, 23456

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Wow, that's as bad as it gets. Almost drawing dead preflop!!
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Old 10-15-2006, 09:05 AM
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As you can see the pocket twos are drawing dead. Can't even get a split. I don't think there is a simpler way to do it. I tried to take out one of the pocket Aces, but it will not work, as the twos could still split if the board went quads with an ace kicker!

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 45.5336 % 01.77% 43.76% { AcAs }
Hand 2: 45.5336 % 01.77% 43.76% { AdAh }
Hand 3: 03.0202 % 00.07% 02.95% { TcTs }
Hand 4: 03.0202 % 00.07% 02.95% { TdTh }
Hand 5: 01.4462 % 00.03% 01.41% { 5c5s }
Hand 6: 01.4462 % 00.03% 01.41% { 5d5h }
Hand 7: 00.0000 % 00.00% 00.00% { 2c2s }
Hand 8: 00.0000 % 00.00% 00.00% { 2d2h }
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Old 10-15-2006, 05:01 PM
Abbaddabba Abbaddabba is offline
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Default Re: THE Worst Domination

If you want to make a hand draw dead to a win, you can do it simpler.

But to prevent a chop, you need to eliminate all straight flush combos, which means you have to get rid of the 5's and the 10's. And to make sure that quads plus a board kicker doesnt play, you have to eliminate all of the aces.
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:43 AM
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If you want to make a hand draw dead to a win, you can do it simpler.

But to prevent a chop, you need to eliminate all straight flush combos, which means you have to get rid of the 5's and the 10's. And to make sure that quads plus a board kicker doesnt play, you have to eliminate all of the aces.

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We recently had a thread on this. What you've said isn't quite true. You could leave the 5s and 10s.

For example:

AA,AA
JJ,JJ
66,66
any xx,xx where x is 2-5 will do.

Note that no straight flush is possible.

You could even allow a straight flush to go out:
AA,AA
TT,TT
44,44
33,33 or 22,22 will do.

5 - 9 could come out but TT wins in that case.

or
AA,AA
88,88
33,33
22,22

In this case all four of bottom guys are drawing dead.
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Old 10-16-2006, 04:45 AM
IFoldPktOnes IFoldPktOnes is offline
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Default Re: THE Worst Domination

I found a 7 hand situtation where one hand is drawing completely dead:

KcKs - drawing dead
AcAs
AdKh
AhKd
QcQs
7d7h
7c7s
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:09 AM
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Why do you need the 7s here?
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Old 10-16-2006, 04:39 PM
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Why do you need the 7s here?

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Otherwise 23456 would be an all way chop
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Old 10-25-2006, 11:05 AM
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Nicely done with the 7 hand situation. Trying to beat it...
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