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Old 10-24-2006, 01:21 PM
Imrahil Imrahil is offline
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Default 10NL : Badly played AJ

I played this hand horribly.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($2)
Button ($15.25)
Hero ($14.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.5</font>, BB calls $0.40, Button calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, BB folds, Button calls $1.

Turn: ($3.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $5</font>, Hero calls $3.

River: ($13.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $8.75 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $22.25
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:30 PM
Shaddux Shaddux is offline
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Default Re: 10NL : Badly played AJ

Yeah this looks pretty bad.

So what's your question about the hand?
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: 10NL : Badly played AJ

I agree, but it wasn't that atrocious. A flat call on the flop, followed by a small turn raise, followed by a river push is indicative of a very strong hand. I would have done something more decisive on the turn, however - whether it be pushing or folding, depending on your read on Villian - vs. an unknown I probably fold here, due to the flush possibility on top of set possibility. By being passive, you're still really not sure where you are in the hand and now are totally clueless when you improved on the river.

Again, you put yourself if a tough spot flat-calling the turn when you hit trips on the river - Villian could easily have a flush or boat. The pot is too big and Villian' stack too short for an effective blocking bet. I actually don't mind the river laydown given his line.
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: 10NL : Badly played AJ

I am very new to NL, so take this for what it is...my opinion, and quite possibly the wrong answer.

Villain is saying "I have a strong hand" on the turn. My mind instantly screams flush, but what else would he play this way?

Is he strong enough to represent the flush when he has a set? We have the nut diamond. Is he the type of player that will fold a small made flush to our push? Probably not at this limit, but that is something to take into consideration.

The river check gives him an opening to push you off of whatever you have. We can't beat anything here other than a bluff.

As played and with no reads and given the stacks and bets, I fold the turn getting 3.5 to 1. I wouldn't call the turn bet if I had any intention of folding the river. What can come that isn't a bad card for us other than a non-board pairing diamoind?


Edited to remove a duplicate word.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: 10NL : Badly played AJ

Fold to the turn raise. Baluga theorem.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: 10NL : Badly played AJ

I just looked this up. Nice.


Baluga Theorem

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Old 10-24-2006, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: 10NL : Badly played AJ

Should I just check/call the turn? Or just check/fold it?
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: 10NL : Badly played AJ

fold to the turn raiase with the ace of diamonds? how stupid are you guys?
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: 10NL : Badly played AJ

[ QUOTE ]
fold to the turn raiase with the ace of diamonds? how stupid are you guys?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, I'm just wondering if you guys realize I have the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: 10NL : Badly played AJ

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Should I just check/call the turn? Or just check/fold it?

[/ QUOTE ] you should bet it. you have TPTK and you just picked up the nut flush draw. he could easily have a weaker jack, or less likely, a straight draw. if he DOES have the flush you have redraws. every advice that has been given up to here has been terrible.
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