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Old 10-23-2006, 04:59 PM
RERAISE5823 RERAISE5823 is offline
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Assuming villain does not reraise light from the blinds when facing a steal attempt, we can say he has AA,KK,QQ,JJ,AK and maybe AQs.

If he reraises light, I suppose you'd throw in suited connectors, almost any ace, almost any pair. I'll assume he's not reraising this light.

On the flop, he makes a cb and you call despite the flush draw in order to not scare him off his overpairs and missed AK/AQ hands. You have a monster, and you are slow playing to pick up more bets on the turn/river.

I'm not so sure this is good. Witht he flush draw, he might see a raise from you on the flop as an attempt to semi-bluff or steal his cb. So, if you raise a good amount, he is in the unfortunate position of folding an overpair, or folding two high clubs, or folding totally missed AK/AQ with no draws. Only the missed AK/AQ with no draws won't call some kind of raise on the flop, otherwise they're probably too weak tight oop with a big pair.

Now the turn is a bit of a problem. The A helps AA and has you almost dead. KK/QQ/JJ would check/fold to a big bet from you, most likely. AK/AQ might lead out, or might check/call. AA would probably slow play for a check/call or check/raise. Checking behind here is a little strange. AK/AQ will call a bet, but AA will check-raise. You took a more cautious approach, so ok.

On the river, he probably didn't make a flush, but he could have with AK/AQ clubs. He doesn't know that you haven't made a flush, so the bet is either a blocking bet with TPTK/TPWK and will fold to a raise OR its a weak lead with AA top boat looking to trap. The ONLY hand he has that might call a big reraise that you beat is a rivered flush. I think AK/AQ folds. So, I guess the question is whether villain is morelikely to have AA or AcKc, AcQc. There are 3 ways to have AA (Ah Ac, Ah Ad, Ac Ad) and only two for AcKc, AcQc. So, calling isn't so bad really.

I think I would have raised the flop, however, and the hand plays differently (and not so well for me if he really had AA).

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Thank you for your reply. Good analysis.
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:44 PM
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I think you need to change your screen name.
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: Full House vs. Kid PVP

Is this not a good flop to stack an overpair on? wtf?

Slowplay kills, like crack...
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:33 AM
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I got you! You are trying to increase the numbers of your posts.
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:53 AM
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he stacks off with a 6 and he probably thinks a 6 is just as much the nuts as AA.

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Huh? The club isn't making someone with a 6 like their hand too much after the flop action in this hand. No idea if the opponent calls a push with a 6, but it's certainly not something he's going to like.

To people that say he's calling a big raise with AK or AQ here, you're nuts. It's still a raise on the river, IMO, but I'm raising hoping to get paid off by a flush, not to get paid by one pair of aces.
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:32 AM
Max Higley Max Higley is offline
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In my experience KidPVP is a tightish, ABC player, but he's tough to bluff. I think he's gotten the best of me quite often in some tough hands.

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Let's see what kind of trouble this gets me in...I know KidPVP in real life, and before I read the results I was 98% sure he would show you AA here. I played with him numerous times in a pretty scary home game. Game is now defunct though.
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Old 10-24-2006, 11:44 AM
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In my experience KidPVP is a tightish, ABC player, but he's tough to bluff. I think he's gotten the best of me quite often in some tough hands.

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Let's see what kind of trouble this gets me in...I know KidPVP in real life, and before I read the results I was 98% sure he would show you AA here. I played with him numerous times in a pretty scary home game. Game is now defunct though.

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Tell him he has leaks.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:09 PM
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This thread is funny [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Btw, nice time for pot control on the turn lol. How about half pot on the turn so that drawers stay in while actually building a pot, or else getting c/r'd with AK for an early christmas?
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