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#21
10-22-2006, 03:49 PM
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Re: Fun w/ 77
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[ QUOTE ] I'd rather check-call the flop and donk said turn cards than check-raise and bet. I'm not planning on check-folding any turn card; I'm either check-raising or donking. [/ QUOTE ] this can obv work, but it just kind of seems like FPS to me. [/ QUOTE ] Call it FPS if you'd like, but it accomplishes the same thing as cr'ing the flop and leading the turn, and for less investment. In fact, scratch that. It's more likely to work than cr'ing the flop, since we're less likely to get played back at on the turn. If villain has high cards and gets cr'd on the flop, he may decide to raise his A high on the turn (often taking a free showdown), forcing us to fold our better hand. However, if we check-call then donk, we're much less likely to get raised by a worse hand. So on top of those advantages, check-calling the flop lets us check-raise safe turn cards, making our play much stronger in villain's eyes. Obv there are some scenarios you can draw out where this line works out less than perfectly, but overall it is FAR superior to check-raising the flop. 
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#22
10-22-2006, 09:38 PM
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Re: Fun w/ 77
why raise the turn why not call?
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#25
10-22-2006, 10:38 PM
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Re: Fun w/ 77
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[ QUOTE ] because raising the turn is pretty likely to make him fold a better hand. [/ QUOTE ] ya, sure. Better hand folding about never [/ QUOTE ] You don't think 99 ever folds here? I think it folds a lot.
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#26
10-23-2006, 02:35 AM
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Re: Fun w/ 77
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why raise the turn why not call? [/ QUOTE ] He will only fold a better hand very rarely, but a good number of hands in his range have many outs against us, and I'd rather him fold his overcards (or pay another bet on the draw) than give him a free shot to outdraw me.
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