Up for discussion. THIS HU call.

Rojosox · #1 10-22-2006, 04:44 AM

PokerStars Game #6724466936: Tournament #34212505, $105+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2006/10/22 - 04:35:43 (ET)
Table '34212505 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: jayjay297 (5230 in chips)
Seat 9: Phwap (8270 in chips)
jayjay297: posts the ante 50
Phwap: posts the ante 50
jayjay297: posts small blind 300
Phwap: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
jayjay297: raises 4580 to 5180 and is all-in
Phwap: calls 4580
*** FLOP *** [8c 8h 2d]
*** TURN *** [8c 8h 2d] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [8c 8h 2d 9c] [9h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Phwap: shows [Jd 9d] (a full house, Nines full of Eights)
jayjay297: shows [2h Ah] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
Phwap collected 10460 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10460 | Rake 0
Board [8c 8h 2d 9c 9h]
Seat 2: jayjay297 (button) (small blind) showed [2h Ah] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 9: Phwap (big blind) showed [Jd 9d] and won (10460) with a full house, Nines full of Eights

citanul · #2 10-22-2006, 04:47 AM

mother... [censored]... i uninstalled my sngpt... (on this computer).

op: do you have sngpt? if so, you should at least consider helping us out by supplying some numbers that show why this is silly to you.

Paul B. · #3 10-22-2006, 04:53 AM

Just this hand? Bad call, of course.. but there might be other factors that aren't accounted for - previous hands, meta game, etc.

costanza_g · #4 10-22-2006, 04:54 AM

The call breakseven at 50%.

citanul · #5 10-22-2006, 05:11 AM

handsome,

[censored] metagame, it's hu.

Velocity · #6 10-22-2006, 05:22 AM

If his calling range is top 50% (J9o is near the bottom of this range) than shoving 70% is the breakeven point for you. The call becomes breakeven for him if you are shoving 60%. The call doesn't seem too bad to me.

Velocity

Myst · #7 10-22-2006, 06:18 AM

Play with this guy too Rojo. He seems to make really loose calls when as the big stack on the bubble, or ITM.

raptor517 · #8 10-22-2006, 06:24 AM

play results. ship the money!!! might be a bit loose, but against someone shoving any 2 its +ev ofc. holla

DaN_05 · #9 10-22-2006, 06:27 AM

It's pretty loose but if he knows you're shoving a lot it can't be too bad, and some guys playing a ton of tables will be happy to take any kind of edge I guess.

fluorescenthippo · #10 10-22-2006, 06:50 AM

this looks like a very easy call to me against a solid player. i would make this call against the villian and the OP.

BBV?