Button and BB get HU: What's your read???

[Thrakkar]

In FR it's folded to you on the button. You raise, SB folds and BB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5 SB)

BB checks, you bet, BB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Now BB bets out. Why?
Info: BB is a LAG/TAG thinking player!

[knockonwood]

What are my hole cards?

[Thrakkar]

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What are my hole cards?

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You don't need hole cards to answer question #1. It's about what you think BB might be holding.

For question #2 your hole cards are Jx (no draws).
-Thrakkar

[milesdyson]

he has QT, 55, 44, 33, 9h7h, Th7h, Qh9h, or 22.

i would call turn and river with Jx.

[fabadam]

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What are my hole cards?

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You don't need hole cards to answer question #1. It's about what you think BB might be holding.

For question #2 your hole cards are Jx (no draws).
-Thrakkar

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I am a very aggressive stealer, but I don't try it with Jx, unless I have stats on both blinds that they fold 60+% to steals in both blinds.

ObSuperstition: I have a thing with J4o. Or rather, J4o has a thing with me. After I read a few posts here where J4o was used as an example of a garbage hand, I kept getting J4o all the time. Or so I thought. So I questioned my trusty PT database. Sure enough, J4o is my 2nd most frequent hand. I'm still folding it though.

[Dastone]

BB is likely trying to protect something, while also possibly finding out if you are still interested in the pot. This is not a big hand most of the time, unless it is a random two pair looking to 3 bet. If I were in this spot I would call down since we are beating most of villans range here.

[Thrakkar]

Hmmm, I just looked at the current results: even though 41% think they are up against a pair of kings, only 12% want to fold their paired Jx [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Guys, you are getting 3.25-to-1 immediate odds (maybe 5.25 implied odds) on a 5-outer (at most)! That translates into at least 8.2-to-1 odds that you need to get here!

Is this result strange or have I misunderstood the whole concept of outs & odds? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Can anybody explain that, please?

Thanks!
-Thrakkar

[Low Limit Loser]

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Hmmm, I just looked at the current results: even though 41% think they are up against a pair of kings, only 12% want to fold their paired Jx [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Guys, you are getting 3.25-to-1 immediate odds (maybe 5.25 implied odds) on a 5-outer (at most)! That translates into at least 8.2-to-1 odds that you need to get here!

Is this result strange or have I misunderstood the whole concept of outs & odds? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Can anybody explain that, please?

Thanks!
-Thrakkar

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You asked what we think the "MOST LIKELY" hand is. Not one of us is 100% sure. There is enough doubt to continue.

LLL

[detruncate]

The only way this is a K (or K's up) is if he's looking to bet/3-bet, and he's going to go for a c/r instead a goodly % of the time. It's is a semibluff or a sketchy pair way more often.

Easy call.