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#91
10-15-2006, 06:32 AM
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Re: Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The REAL nath is back...lol [/ QUOTE ] who are you? do you know anything about me to presume you know what i'm actually like? [/ QUOTE ] nath, shouldn't we factor in our expectation vs. the field, dictating that in Azaria's instance this is an automatic call because he has a negative expecation vs the field? To simplify, let's assume heads-up play and we're a very good player facing a poor player where the good player has a 60% likelihood of winning each hand. Why in a +ev situation with qq vs ak would we call knowing that every other hand we have far superior expectation of winning? [/ QUOTE ] Because in reality people don't have edges this big, and one major mistake many weak-tight players make in tournaments is overestimating their advantage vs. the field and passing on profitable situations as a result. 
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#92
10-15-2006, 01:41 PM
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Re: Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?
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[ QUOTE ] The REAL nath is back...lol [/ QUOTE ] who are you? do you know anything about me to presume you know what i'm actually like? [/ QUOTE ] like I said...
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#93
10-15-2006, 04:41 PM
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Re: Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The REAL nath is back...lol [/ QUOTE ] who are you? do you know anything about me to presume you know what i'm actually like? [/ QUOTE ] like I said... [/ QUOTE ] Oh, I get it. You're a troll.
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#95
10-16-2006, 12:28 AM
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Re: Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?
This thread is great! The trolling, the comedy, the know-it-all jackasses... and then the pwnage.
If anyone would like to post the chipstacks of all remaining players at the time as a comma-separated vector, and the payouts in that same format, I can run the ICM on it. Not like that would convince anyone. The result would still be, no, you can't lay down KK getting almost 5:1 ever. I'd just get even more crap responses about how you have to forget about all your fancy-pants analysis and play the game the correct way, where you lay down the red aces getting 10:1 because you know your opponent has the other two aces, and spades have been hitting on the flop all night.
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#97
10-16-2006, 07:50 AM
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Re: Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The REAL nath is back...lol [/ QUOTE ] who are you? do you know anything about me to presume you know what i'm actually like? [/ QUOTE ] like I said... [/ QUOTE ] Oh, I get it. You're a troll. [/ QUOTE ] Oh....ok, I guess only people "in the circle" can comment, like adanthar...lmfao
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#98
10-16-2006, 12:05 PM
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Re: Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?
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IF YOU'RE GETTING 4:1 ODDS ON YOUR MONEY, AND YOU'RE 21% TO WIN, YOU HAVE A POSITIVE EXPECTATION IF YOU CALL. YOU HAVE A ZERO EXPECTATION IF YOU FOLD. POSITIVE IS GREATER THAN ZERO. [/ QUOTE ] ok iam no expert here and maybe it dosnt matter but according to pokerstove kk is is 18.745% to win?(kckd AsAh)
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#99
10-19-2006, 01:10 AM
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Re: Hank Azaria laying down KK.....should I be impressed?
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[ QUOTE ] IF YOU'RE GETTING 4:1 ODDS ON YOUR MONEY, AND YOU'RE 21% TO WIN, YOU HAVE A POSITIVE EXPECTATION IF YOU CALL. YOU HAVE A ZERO EXPECTATION IF YOU FOLD. POSITIVE IS GREATER THAN ZERO. [/ QUOTE ] ok iam no expert here and maybe it dosnt matter but according to pokerstove kk is is 18.745% to win?(kckd AsAh) [/ QUOTE ] Because of the action, you can probably kill an ace or two, or whatever.
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